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uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by eru »

mrgoldenbrown wrote: post #744
ethan_smith wrote: post #729

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Been using uBlock Origin for so long I forgot what the raw internet actually looks like. Spent 3 minutes without an ad blocker last week when setting up a new machine and nearly lost my mind. Google knows exactly what they're taking away from us - a usable web. They've just decided that our sanity is less valuable than their ad revenue. https://programmerhumor.io/programming-memes/browsing-withou... I feel really bad…

You linked to a crappy copy of an XKCD comic. Here's the orginal. https://xkcd.com/624/

Thanks for the link to the original.

Well the crappy copy does come with some extra text. (No judgement from me on whether the extra text improves the comic here; just that someone might think it does, and there's no arguing about taste.)

It's also interesting to see that XKCD itself explicitly supports eg hotlinking, and the license makes putting it into your own crappy creations rather easy. (Though I think the example linked to fails the 'attribution' requirement.)

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by eviks »

efilife wrote: post #761
Aerroon wrote: post #417

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Can you install your own personal extensions without getting permission from Mozilla yet? Or are they still banning that? Because that change drove me away from Firefox.

You mean inatalling from local files? This isn't ever going away, we have to test what we develop somehow

It already went away, you need a special Firefox version to do that (that's the somehow part)

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by eru »

genewitch wrote: post #756
roywiggins wrote: post #697

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How much would Google even lose if Apple didn't make Google the default search engine? People would almost certainly just use Google anyway. If Apple switched to Bing most people would use it once, get pissed off, and then switch it back to Google. It's not that weird that people are a bit suspicious that it's really worth Google $20B/year.

I use ddg, have basically since it was released, what's wrong with bing?

Back when I tried both more extensively a few years ago, Google was a lot better giving me results relevant in Europe and Asia. Bing and duck duck go used to be very US only focused. Which made me go back to Google.

I don't know if or how much that's changed.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by lolinder »

noisy_boy wrote: post #776
lolinder wrote: post #708

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> The funny thing is that the same people on here that crow on about Mozilla needing to "just focus on Firefox" are the same ones who complains about its reliance on Google for income. There's no inherent contradiction here. Mozilla still doesn't give me a way to donate to them to fund Firefox. They haven't even tried. I want to fund Firefox development, desperately, but they deliberately structured their organizatio…

Taking your money creates a firmer expectation from them to stick to their main selling proposition of privacy which would make it more difficult for them to go after revenue streams that are more lucrative but less privacy-focused.

Yes, that's the only conclusion I've been able to come to. The recent ToS changes make that even more clear.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by eru »

gruez wrote: post #615
jnathsf wrote: post #554

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Suggest using a service like NextDNS or Pi-hole for DYI ad blocking at the DNS/network level. I started with pi-hole but the hassle of updates and most importantly not having it available outside of my home network pushed me to a service like NextDNS which works on any network (5G, work, etc)

If you think manifest v3's adblocking is bad, DNS-based adblockers (eg. NextDNS or Pi-hole) is even worse. It can't do any filtering based on urls or elements, so any first party ads will be able to get through.

Though it might be a good second layer of defense.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by makeitdouble »

crazygringo wrote: post #763
culi wrote: post #733

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If you have fast internet you will probably not really notice the difference The difference between v2 and v3 is that v3 will no longer allow uBlock to modify network calls. Previously one of the big savings of a adblocker is they can stop the calls from being made AT ALL. That means less tracking AND less of your internet bandwidth being used Both v2 and v3 can block the actual elements from your screen so you will…

That's wrong. V3 doesn't allow network calls to be modified , for privacy reasons. It still allows them to be blocked , which is how the adblocking works in the first place. Contrary to what you say, v3 does block the tracking in the ad request as well as the bandwidth. https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/api/d...

I'm not well versed into adblocking, but shouldn't the extension also get access to the content of the request as well, to be able to either improve it's blocking accuracy (e.g. detect if the whitelisted content matches blocked content patterns) or decide to hide a resource after it was fetched ?

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by chii »

nikcub wrote: post #641
kolanos wrote: post #378

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Not working as well on YouTube. The ad is blocked, but you still need to skip it. You didn't need to do this with UBO.

uBO being so good at blocking YouTube ads to the point where you didn't need to signup for Premium may have been the tipping point for Google that ended manifest V2.

i suspect that youtube mobile is responsible for more traffic than web. And that it's harder (but not impossible) to have adblocking on mobile (such as revanced).

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by superkuh »

simpaticoder wrote: post #698
grimblee wrote: post #559

Just stop using chrome, fight the monopoly, don't be a sheep. It's inconvenient ? Convenience is a trap, stop giving away your freedom and agency for convenience.

This sentiment precludes discussion of incentives, the individual's relationship to the group, and the practical limits of agency. If you said the same about smartphones, you would be locked out of many services, including governmental ones. You unthinkingly, tacitly shift the onus onto the individual, which is naive. There is a reason the 5-day work-week, fire codes, and so-forth had to be legislated, because "just…

Being the change you want to see in the world is not a bad thing and should always be the first step before bringing up coercive force for others. There are better browsers and there are other options and not changing your own behavior first due to ignorance and acceptance of the status quo is not cool.

I feel the same way about smartphones, by the by, and it is very possible to live without them. I don't even carry a dumb phone with me. It's not impossible for me. It may be infeasible for you and your life situation. But I'm sure there's plenty of me's out there.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by genewitch »

eru wrote: post #783
genewitch wrote: post #756

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I use ddg, have basically since it was released, what's wrong with bing?

Back when I tried both more extensively a few years ago, Google was a lot better giving me results relevant in Europe and Asia. Bing and duck duck go used to be very US only focused. Which made me go back to Google. I don't know if or how much that's changed.

that's unfortunate, really. Is there no other options for those regions? I'm not suggesting yandex, but others exist, right?

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by tux »

bearjaws wrote: post #4

Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... I migrated off Chrome as soon as this BS story about improving privacy, a joke coming from Google. Then the excuse was "well it improves performance", which they could easily do by marking extensions as low performance. If Google wanted to improve this they have an entire search engine where they could re-ran…

Let’s hope it still works at least on ungoogled chromium with manual setup. As soon as this stops working i’m back to only using firefox for good.
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