Live data from Hacker News

British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

theguardian.com

121–130 of 257 posts

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#121

Earlier this month, the Guardian also had an article of a German tourist who crossed over the land border (San Ysidro Port of Entry, I assume) who was detained for a long while too. The details seemed kind of similar to this situation where it involves suspicion of tourists working in the USA without the proper authorizations.

It seems like there was good reason for these concerns that the person was going to work. However, the person was right there at the border. Why did we not just turn them back around. I don't think they had overstayed their time in Mexico? Further they had a return flight weeks ago. AFAIk we have been paying to keep this person detained for over a month now. Why not at least put them on their original flight back. Th…

It seems like a common detail for both situations is both travelers were at a land crossing. It sounds like a nightmare scenario but I bet they also could have been bounced back and forth between the guards of either country. At that point, one side will have to take on detention responsibilities because neither side will trust the person to make good on their return plans.

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#122

If she is on a "four-month backpacking trip around North America" and tried to return to the US, she has exceeded the 90-day limit allowed by the Visa Waiver Program (which counts days both in the US and "adjacent territories") and is now an illegal overstayer. The unpaid labor stuff and getting refused entry to Canada is icing on the cake. For the record, I'm no fan of ICE/CBP, but it looks like they're just enforci…

Enforcing the law is one thing. If they refused entry or forced her to fly back immediately, nobody would care much. Detaining is all of: cruel, expensive, unnecessary.

FYI Tacoma Northwest is a Geo Group private prison. Geo Group is paid per number of beds at this facility not number occupied so locking her up has zero added expense. But you do not want to be in a Geo private facility especially their immigration facilities.

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enforcing the law is one thing. If they refused entry or forced her to fly back immediately, nobody would care much. Detaining is all of: cruel, expensive, unnecessary.

Probably profitable though. A lot of those immigration detention centers are privately operated.

Tacoma Northwest is a private 'detention center'.

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#124
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US, it's very clear. If they don't have work authorization from USCIS, they shouldn't be doing work. There's some guidelines out there on the internet [1], but the students should be extremely careful; any form of compensation or expectation of future compensation for their work could put them in serious trouble. The University of Michigan has a more fleshed out guideline page for their international students…

Musk is lucky enforcement wasn't as strict back then.

Cannot citizenship be revoked for past violations?

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#125
post #78

A similar story about Ice detaining a German tourist in California indefinitely. Jessica Brösche has spent more than a month in detention center after being denied entry at San Diego from Mexico. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/ice-german-t...

That tourist couldn’t be admitted to the IS, nor returned to Mexico as they didn’t have permission.

So they had to wait for deportation?

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#126
post #42

i was following this on another site before it showed up here: 1)UK citizens dont need a visa perse coming into canada as a tourist 1b) electronic travel authorization form is not required for UK citizens coming to canada over land border. 2)she was staying at Workaway, which depending on how you interpret/misinterpret is "working" (which it possibly is, a little shady on what they are.) so canada may have thought sh…

You can just say reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/1j7qumk/uk_girl_sw...

not everyone uses reddit. i did not see it on reddit.. it was from another news site.

reviewing timelines, it made news circle from facebook before it hit reddit.

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#127
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> very first thing i think of when viewing their site is this is some lodging for volunteer/unpaid labour. https://www.workaway.info/ I'm certainly not an immigration lawyer but my understanding is that _no_ work, none, even in exchange for room and board, is allowed on a tourist visa in the US. Workaway looks like it isn't compatible with a tourist visa in the US and their website doesn't really call that out. Seems…

“Generally you will be expected to help around 5 hours per day in exchange for food and accommodation. Some hosts may give a paid allowance to ensure they are offering at least the minimum wage in their country.”

That doesn’t make it legal, particularly in the US

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#128

[flagged]

You don’t want people to come in for 6 months, work below minimum wage and then take all that cash abroad without paying taxes. That would be a bigger drain on the economy than the supposed waste of govt resources.

>6 months

>work below minimum wage

>all that cash

~$6000?

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not convinced it's the Americans responsibility to get her back to a suitable international airport as quickly as possible and put her in the next flight out. 10 days does seem excessive, but I don't see why she should be a priority either. I would imagine up to 5 working days fits within the realm of 'reasonable'.

A full work week in jail for something that isn’t even a crime is ridiculous.

Going to a country for work on a tourist visa (waiver) and without a working permit is ridiculous on top of staying longer than the usually allowed 90 days in any sequence of 180 consecutive days. Do not put yourself in a position for a foreign government to put you in detention and "hope for the best".

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#130
post #42

i was following this on another site before it showed up here: 1)UK citizens dont need a visa perse coming into canada as a tourist 1b) electronic travel authorization form is not required for UK citizens coming to canada over land border. 2)she was staying at Workaway, which depending on how you interpret/misinterpret is "working" (which it possibly is, a little shady on what they are.) so canada may have thought sh…

Based just on the details in the report, it seems refusing entry is justified. Or at least not very strange.

What I don't understand is, why not just send her back home vs detaining her? Maybe someone that's more knowledgeable here can chime in. Is it standard practice to detain someone, especially for an extended period, vs just putting them on the first plane back home?

Post reply on HN