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British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

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Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

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The story is missing an important detail, I'm not assuming malice btw, why was she refused entry into Canada as well? Edit: Lol, there's literally nothing wrong with this observation. HN has truly gone down the gutter. I know not everybody here is part of the hivemind but the few that are completely spoil the experience for everybody else.

She was not detained by Canada's border service.

Can you quote the specific part of my comment (or anybody's comment) where such thing is claimed?

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#52
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dictating they buy one of the most expensive flights (one of the immediate ones taking off that day) probably isn't a great look either. Like so much else with law enforcement, they look like shit because of the system and incentives set up. Some do it themselves and are malicious for no good reason, but not literally every time.

You don't get a free flight. Typically either your return ticket is moved if possible, or the airline will claim the cost from you. There's a number of regulations and airline rules, but in general - unless the airline messed up checks at boarding, you're getting charged for the flight back.

That’s the parent’s point: a same-day flight may be expensive for the detainee and look bad for ICE.

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#53
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, they could consider detention. But then there are daily flights back to the UK. Anything beyond an overnight stay (if necessary for the wait) is unfair.

Dictating they buy one of the most expensive flights (one of the immediate ones taking off that day) probably isn't a great look either. Like so much else with law enforcement, they look like shit because of the system and incentives set up. Some do it themselves and are malicious for no good reason, but not literally every time.

There is no world where that bad look means throw them in a prison cell to languish.

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#54

It sounds like she was rightfully detained, but it seems crazy to hold her for 10+ days. Why not just let her get back on a flight to the UK and tell her not to come back for 10 years or whatever.

My understanding is that they typically do, you book your own ticket for and they put you on a plane, even later the same day if you want. They'll only keep you in detention if you're trying to fight the deportation and have to wait for a hearing, or if you have no way to pay for a ticket -- then they find a low-cost ticket some time out and hold you until then.

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#55
post #46

Probably shouldn't tell border patrol you're doing unpaid labor in a country you're visiting. When speaking to authorities it's best to say the absolute minimum required for the encounter.

or dont lie, apply for appropriate work permits/visa entries/travel authorizations if you are going to work whether its paid or not.

You can get banned from coming to the US if they catch you lying about the reason you're crossing the border. It's a long arduous process and lawyer fees to get the ban overturned. Happened to a Canadian I knew a decade ago when they tried to enter on a tourist visa for business purposes.

I'm sure it's similar in other countries but US has always been very strict given the huge amount of people trying to work there and the very finite supply of work visas.

From my experience you'll also get extra scruntiny if you're traveling solo like this girl. I was secondary screened twice coming for business where they double checked my paperwork and TSA lady in the back asked a bunch of silly questions (like "what is PayPal").

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

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post #16

I have long suspected the reason for aggressive treatment of minor offenders is that they are an easy target and a quick way to meet your prosecution quota. I have many times heard about foreign students who come to the USA under completely proper arrangements but run afoul of immigration because of some innocent remark. My advice to visitors is to never mention to officials any circumstance in which you might come i…

Speaking of quotas: I wouldn’t surprised if part of the reason for her lengthy detention was “we have to meet jail occupancy targets” (or “we have to boost our jail occupancy metrics”.)

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#57
Earlier this month, the Guardian also had an article of a German tourist who crossed over the land border (San Ysidro Port of Entry, I assume) who was detained for a long while too. The details seemed kind of similar to this situation where it involves suspicion of tourists working in the USA without the proper authorizations.

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#58
post #16

I have long suspected the reason for aggressive treatment of minor offenders is that they are an easy target and a quick way to meet your prosecution quota. I have many times heard about foreign students who come to the USA under completely proper arrangements but run afoul of immigration because of some innocent remark. My advice to visitors is to never mention to officials any circumstance in which you might come i…

My solution is just to avoid the US like the plague. This is after the countless of stories of people being detained at the border, having their electronics gone through and having to report all of your social media accounts for some fucking reason.

Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue

#60
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dictating they buy one of the most expensive flights (one of the immediate ones taking off that day) probably isn't a great look either. Like so much else with law enforcement, they look like shit because of the system and incentives set up. Some do it themselves and are malicious for no good reason, but not literally every time.

You don't get a free flight. Typically either your return ticket is moved if possible, or the airline will claim the cost from you. There's a number of regulations and airline rules, but in general - unless the airline messed up checks at boarding, you're getting charged for the flight back.

Sounds like she was surviving doing chores in exchange for a place to sleep (in two different countries). It's possible she didn't have a plane ticket lined up.
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