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uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by drpossum »

bad_user wrote: post #96
MYEUHD wrote: post #66

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That would be a good thing. If Firefox is funded by donations, rather than by Google, it ensures there is no enshittification in the future. And yes, donations can fund a big project, as evidenced by Thunderbird and Ladybird.

Nobody uses Ladybird, at this point it's vaporware. And Thunderbird is still based on Firefox. The development of Firefox costs around $200 million per year. That's more than what Wikimedia can get from donations, and Wikipedia is a website that everyone uses. And you want to rely on donations from people that ad-block YouTube instead of paying for Premium. And let's say that it manages to bring those costs down to $…

I think it's unfair to call Ladybird vaporware this early. There's nothing suspicious about their development schedule for the scope of the thing they're trying to build.

I agree I don't think it should be in the alternative browser discussion until they do produce something, however.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by kolanos »

creato wrote: post #310
chihuahua wrote: post #185

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It's not ideal, but if that's what it takes to block ads as well as uBlock Origin does, then that's a price I'm willing to pay.

uBO Lite exists and I can't see any visible difference in how well it works. So, it's not a price you need to pay at all.

In my testing, UBO Lite is not working as well on YouTube. It blocks the ad, but you still have to skip it. Original UBO didn't require this.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by TechBro8615 »

gruez wrote: post #295
Fluorescence wrote: post #278

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People scratch their heads about how "just a default setting" can be worth an annual $20 billion payment from Google. It makes more sense if it's actually for a raft of wildly illegal under-the-table measures this. Imagine what it would cost Google's bottom line if Apple was truly user-focused and enabled ad-blocking on desktop, mobile and embedded safari views by default. Someone do the napkin math please!

This conspiracy theory doesn't make sense because safari's content blockers (ie. the nerfed version of adblock) block most ads just fine, especially from google ads. The only ads that get through are first party ads (eg. youtube), but as of a few years ago adblockers could block those as well, so it's a moot point.

Safari content blockers are not enabled in embedded Web Views.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by bearjaws »

gruez wrote: post #150
bearjaws wrote: post #4

Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... I migrated off Chrome as soon as this BS story about improving privacy, a joke coming from Google. Then the excuse was "well it improves performance", which they could easily do by marking extensions as low performance. If Google wanted to improve this they have an entire search engine where they could re-ran…

>Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... Doesn't Safari have the same restriction, also ostensibly for "security/privacy" reasons? The only difference is that Apple doesn't have a web advertising presence, so you can't make the accusation that they're "abuse its market position to their own benefit".

Alright? Split iOS off from Apple, then split Apple Music off too?

I hate these arguments where people point to some other shitty thing a company is doing as some sort of gotcha.

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Post by glenstein »

drpossum wrote: post #253
AstralSerenity wrote: post #213

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My understanding is Mozilla contracted its footprint substantially to remain sustainable in a future without Google's monetary contribution.

Then they wouldn't be throwing money into open firepits on trash like a VPN service or how to comply with Google's advertising decisions. Then they would let people contribute money to the browser (instead of to Mozilla Foundation which goes to enabling aforementioned trash fires) and to the salary of a multi-million dollar CEO after laying off developer staff and hiring more C-suite assistants. Mozilla is a bad orga…

>Then they wouldn't be throwing money into open firepits on trash like a VPN service

It's pants-on-head level of crazy talk to suggest that the VPN service is compromising Mozilla's finances.

It's a re-wrapped Mullvad VPN that probably was not expensive to roll out (it being inexpensive to deploy is probably precisely the reason they moved forward with it). It's like people are just workshopping arguments where they randomly claim these things are expensive without any substantiation whatsoever.

Mozilla is sitting on 1.2 billion in assets and investments. They're not underwater. They are indeed in a position where they need to diversify revenue, but the idea that the side bets have created running deficits is a narrative completely manufactured in comment sections.

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Post by alluro2 »

fiatjaf wrote: post #136
submeta wrote: post #104

Abandoned Chrome years ago. Am using Firefox and never looked back. Same with other Google products: Replaced Gmail with Fastmail, Google Docs with Office365 (yeah, I know, Microsoft).

The hardest thing to replace was always search to me, because the usually alternatives (DuckDuckGo, Ecosia etc) always suck. But Kagi made that part so easy it's unbelievable.

I'm genuinely curious about why you find DDG sucking compared to Google Search? I've switched ~2 years ago, when I found DDG better in terms of less clutter and not showing ads as results - also, if there are no good results, it didn't push nonsense. But maybe GS improved in the meantime on the quality of results and I'm missing out?

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

jordanb wrote: post #193
bad_user wrote: post #168

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Name a project whose development costs as much as Firefox and that survives from donations. Many people want AI in their browser. And what does Firefox have to do with crypto?

> Name a project whose development costs as much as Firefox and that survives from donations. Wikipedia.

Similar to Mozilla & Firefox, there isn't an exact breakdown for Wikimedia expenditures to know the costs associated with Wikipedia. For Firefox, it's often stated its costs are ~200m but those are all expenses Mozilla categorizes under software development. For Wikimedia, within their operation expenses, ~3m were in hosting and ~84m in salaries (related to programs). The salaries are stated to be for multiple initiatives, among which platform development is mentioned*.

*Although arguably the most important part of Wikipedia, and their other collaborative projects, are the volunteers maintaining and contributing to it, rather the developers.

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Post by kolanos »

judge2020 wrote: post #237
gruez wrote: post #150

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>Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... Doesn't Safari have the same restriction, also ostensibly for "security/privacy" reasons? The only difference is that Apple doesn't have a web advertising presence, so you can't make the accusation that they're "abuse its market position to their own benefit".

And ublock origin lite works just fine for me

Not working as well on YouTube. The ad is blocked, but you still need to skip it. You didn't need to do this with UBO.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by yard2010 »

noname120 wrote: post #263
gloosx wrote: post #244

I've been personally enjoying Ghostery extension for the past year, block all ads, youtube, any HTML5 player, banners, popups – really clean and tidy browsing experience. It didn't even catch any hype regarding this manifest support issue uBlock origin has, and it keeps silently working good without any interruptions, I wonder why is that?

Because Ghostery belongs to an analytics company that sells your data so they are working round the clock to keep it running

Honest question - let's say you can't physically experience ads. Why do you care about your data being sold? This is a problem only if you can see ads, but remember, you can't.
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