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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Really? Fire the Rust Servo team and double the CEO's salary in the same year? Almost the same money.

I said I don't agree with them wasting that much money on the CEO, maybe I wasn't clear (perhaps it's due to English not being my first language).

You were clear. Mailtemi is just talking past the point of your comment, rather than engage with it.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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I don’t work for Google and genuinely think it’s better for users. It’s always bugged me that ad blockers request arbitrary read write permissions for all websites I visit, and it didn’t seem like that was ever going to change until Chrome forced the issue.

It really isn't. They can spend some of their billions of revenue to review changes when popular extensions are updated, just like Mozilla does. Every uBO update is vetted by Mozilla and is only then pushed out to users. But doing this is not in Google's interest at all.

Mozilla’s guidance on this (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tips-assessing-safety-e...) is that only some extensions are manually reviewed and you shouldn’t trust this as a guarantee of safety if you don’t trust the developer who owns the extension.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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>Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... Doesn't Safari have the same restriction, also ostensibly for "security/privacy" reasons? The only difference is that Apple doesn't have a web advertising presence, so you can't make the accusation that they're "abuse its market position to their own benefit".

Firefox and its derivatives remain the only true alternative at this point.

Do you have thoughts about Kagi/Orion browser? I've been using it for a bit now and I've been pleased with the ad blocking capabilities and the ability to have ublock origin on my iPhone and iPad. The browser definitely has scales but it's usable for me at this point.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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This was to be expected, however I am curious if Vivaldi, Brave and others will make their own webstore which will have plugins like ublock origin, and how long till Mozilla follows suit.

Google aggressively makes it hard for Chromium derivatives to not conform to Google's engineering choices.

They could try and keep manifestv2 support for a while, but they will have an increasingly large and hard to support patch se to make manifestv2 work still.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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This was to be expected, however I am curious if Vivaldi, Brave and others will make their own webstore which will have plugins like ublock origin, and how long till Mozilla follows suit.

Time to reply to https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/91160/vivaldi-s-own-extensio... or something.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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You can still install uBlock Origin in Brave, assuming you don't mind the crypto stuff and how they pay it out (or, rather don't) to site owners. Even Firefox feels a little weird now with the advent of Mozilla Advertising. Very much a lesser of all evils situation.

You can, but ultimately Brave is downstream of Chrome and their stated intention of supporting Manifest V2 "for as long as [they're] able" doesn't inspire as much confidence. Firefox is also the only open alternative to Chromium at the moment, so I prefer to endorse it instead.

Brave has its own Rust based Adblocker BUILD IN. That is at the very core of the Browser, uses the exact same filter lists uBlock Origin and all the other use. There is no point in using uBlock origin in Brave at all. I have been using Brave for years now and the adblocker pretty much like uBlock. Never looked back. I think it even inspired by uBlock but the fact they can even integrate it tighter with Chromium makes more then than an extension written in JS.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Fortunately, at least so far, uBlock Origin Lite works perfectly fine on Chrome. I know people have made a lot of arguments as to why it might not be as good in theory, or why things might change in the future. But so far, ever since I was forced to switch, I have seen exactly zero difference. Lists are updated often enough that I haven't seen anything get through. Adblocking works on YouTube. If anything, pages seem…

I saw significant difference using the Lite version, enough that I switched to Firefox with Origin instead. I expected it to be good enough and was surprised to see the difference.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... I migrated off Chrome as soon as this BS story about improving privacy, a joke coming from Google. Then the excuse was "well it improves performance", which they could easily do by marking extensions as low performance. If Google wanted to improve this they have an entire search engine where they could re-ran…

I'm surprised anyone expected anything different. Why would an ad company support something that assaults its main source of profit?

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Why be bitter at the people dealing with the shit, why not be angry at the people making the world shit? My company uses gmail so I'm forced to use it.

Everyone dealing with gmail is doing so because they chose to. Let’s not pretend this was done unto them. Anyone can stop using gmail at any time.

Indeed. I'd like to. Except Google also make it nigh impossible for anyone hosting their own email (the original-internet ideal) to get email into gmail reliably enough to be useful. I have my own address on my own domain, but can't rely on it (yes, DKIM and DMARC and SPF are properly set up) not to be marked "spam" for opaque reasons, so gmail remains my "main" address. It's a network-effect problem: once enough people are "captured", then everyone else is forced to join - or else be unable to participate.

It's a collective action problem: you'll have to persuade millions and millions of "normies", who have no idea what's going on, or what internet privacy is, or what's broken about the system, and who don't care to learn, and won't listen to us - or you'll have to impose regulation. Those are the choices. The second seems more possible than the first. Us nerds saying "walk away" is idealistic; we will, and always will, get squished, because the corps have the power and most folks won't (ever) care.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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We have to put some of this on Firefox for failing to remain competitive in the engineering arena.

If it's too expensive to develop a viable alternative to chromium, just say that.

The Firefox that has been trundling along for years is really just an excuse to keep the chromium monopoly afloat.

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