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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Firefox and its derivatives remain the only true alternative at this point.

You can still install uBlock Origin in Brave, assuming you don't mind the crypto stuff and how they pay it out (or, rather don't) to site owners. Even Firefox feels a little weird now with the advent of Mozilla Advertising. Very much a lesser of all evils situation.

You can, but ultimately Brave is downstream of Chrome and their stated intention of supporting Manifest V2 "for as long as [they're] able" doesn't inspire as much confidence.

Firefox is also the only open alternative to Chromium at the moment, so I prefer to endorse it instead.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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After 10+ years as a primary browser, I've been 100% off of Chrome for about 1.5 years now as part of a broader effort to de-Google my life, and things have been going well. It's interesting to notice how much my internal feelings have shifted over the years. There have been a few rare occasions where I had to use a Chromium-based browser, and I felt the same "ick" I used to feel when forced to use Internet Explorer…

>The water is warm.

Mostly because they're peeing in the pool. Mozilla deleted their promise to never sell its users' personal data.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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The issue I have is not that they did it; it’s that they lied about why. Chrome is their project, they should be free to do whatever they want with it. People can use a different browser if they wish (I do). This whole “better for users” bullshit is why I don’t respect Google as a company. Don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining.

I don’t work for Google and genuinely think it’s better for users. It’s always bugged me that ad blockers request arbitrary read write permissions for all websites I visit, and it didn’t seem like that was ever going to change until Chrome forced the issue.

It really isn't. They can spend some of their billions of revenue to review changes when popular extensions are updated, just like Mozilla does. Every uBO update is vetted by Mozilla and is only then pushed out to users. But doing this is not in Google's interest at all.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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The trump admin got this ball rolling way back in 2017.

Just like the TikTok ban they also got the ball rolling on?

The TikTok ban is still happening, some trump donator will end up owning majority of tiktok.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Well, this country (the US) decided in November to go the exact opposite direction of having a government capable of, let alone willing to, pursuing litigation like this, so I hope we enjoy this digital feudalism only expanding, never receding, in the coming years.

>Well, this country (the US) decided in November to go the exact opposite direction of having a government capable of, let alone willing to, pursuing litigation like this No? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43299886

Okay, I'll retract my remarks when the new formation of the FTC actually goes after a tech giant. And frankly, I have doubt any DOJ filings of this type won't get repealed by force from above in short order. This is a case that was mostly handled by the prior DOJ, which is gone now, replaced by new management.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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> Chrome is their project, they should be free to do whatever they want with it. Google has a long history of "accidentally" breaking gmail on firefox and funneling users to Chrome back in the day. It's beyond stupid to argue they should be able to do whatever they want with their vertically integrated monopoly. Like, if you want to dig holes in your own driveway sure whatever, but if you own all the roads in Detroit…

You don't own the roads in Detroit; the government owns most of them. Gmail is not a government service. Google is free to make that work with only one browser, if they want. You can't assert that Google must make Gmail work with any browser whatsoever, because that means supporting someone using Windows 95 with Internet Explorer 5.5.

I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you what a metaphor is, but I will say this Firefox was the dominant player in the 00's 2010's when they did this, not the 2% market share it is now.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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It's time for a Google breakup from the DOJ / FTC. They've gone well beyond what Microsoft did in the 2000s. Google owns so many panes of glass and funnels them all through its search and advertising funnel. They've distorted how the web (and mobile) work to accomplish this massive market distortion. Search, Ads, and Android should be broken up into separate units. Chrome shouldn't be placed with any of those units.…

Well, this country (the US) decided in November to go the exact opposite direction of having a government capable of, let alone willing to, pursuing litigation like this, so I hope we enjoy this digital feudalism only expanding, never receding, in the coming years.

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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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post #192

When I click the link for this story, Edge (stop laughing. Please.) pops up "uBlock Origin works on Microsoft Edge." (It's already there, Edge, but thank you). Edge is based on Chromium, so would that mean this breakage will eventually apply to Edge as the Manifest changes, uhm, manifest to Chromium-based products? Or is this just a Google Chrome thing? FWIW I keep Firefox around but I have to admit I like Edge's smo…

Many Chromium-based browsers will keep Manifest v2 support for a while. But eventually the upstream Chromium codebase will diverge enough that it becomes too much work to keep it and they will be forced to drop it as well.

The manifest situation simply doesn't apply to Brave in relation to adblockers specifically. That is, Brave will function like uBlock without having to install uBlock as an extension - that's kinda the whole point of Brave (blocking ads / making them opt in only). That said, it is true extensions one may use that are affected by the manifest version change may be affected in Brave.
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