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uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by nottorp »

bad_user wrote: post #96
MYEUHD wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be a good thing. If Firefox is funded by donations, rather than by Google, it ensures there is no enshittification in the future. And yes, donations can fund a big project, as evidenced by Thunderbird and Ladybird.

Nobody uses Ladybird, at this point it's vaporware. And Thunderbird is still based on Firefox. The development of Firefox costs around $200 million per year. That's more than what Wikimedia can get from donations, and Wikipedia is a website that everyone uses. And you want to rely on donations from people that ad-block YouTube instead of paying for Premium. And let's say that it manages to bring those costs down to $…

> And you want to rely on donations from people that ad-block YouTube instead of paying for Premium.

Does Google guarantee it won't spy on me if i pay for Premium?

... no, didn't think so.

Besides not everyone uses youtube to the point where paying for it is worth it.

> The development of Firefox costs around $200 million per year.

Does it? Or that's what the mozilla organization wastes on harebrained initiatives overall?

> it still has to compete with a Chrome whose estimated cost goes over $1 billion per year.

But that's to add features that benefit Google not the Chrome users.

Plus Google has money from their ad quasi monopoly so they can afford to be wasteful.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by sneak »

marricks wrote: post #148
sneak wrote: post #91

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The issue I have is not that they did it; it’s that they lied about why. Chrome is their project, they should be free to do whatever they want with it. People can use a different browser if they wish (I do). This whole “better for users” bullshit is why I don’t respect Google as a company. Don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining.

> Chrome is their project, they should be free to do whatever they want with it. Google has a long history of "accidentally" breaking gmail on firefox and funneling users to Chrome back in the day. It's beyond stupid to argue they should be able to do whatever they want with their vertically integrated monopoly. Like, if you want to dig holes in your own driveway sure whatever, but if you own all the roads in Detroit…

If people don’t like this, they can stop using gmail. Neither Chrome, nor Gmail is a monopoly.

The more things Google does to make gmail less useful, the better.

It’s no secret that Google is an ad company. Anyone still using gmail deserves what they get.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by nickelpro »

ivewonyoung wrote: post #10

Does this mean it won't be able to get updates to extension code(not block lists) anymore? I am getting high CPU usage with uBO since yesterday but I do have a lot of tabs so I was wondering if thats a bug that will get fixed.

Switch to UBL, the manifest v3 successor to UBO, to continue to get updates, the performance is better too.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by nightpool »

dewey wrote: post #88
inertiatic wrote: post #57

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I use Firefox as my main browser and it's not a viable alternative to Chrome if you have the very common usage pattern of keeping tens of tabs open.

I use Firefox as my main browser and having "tens of tabs open" is something I do and there's zero issues with that.

How big is your monitor? I can only see about 10-15 tabs on my 4k monitor before Firefox starts scrolling them off the screen. I regularly have 2-3x that on Chrome before tabs stop showing up.

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Post by kelvinjps10 »

freedomben wrote: post #48
drdec wrote: post #35

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My problem with extensions is it's another development team to trust and monitor. I need to know if the extension has been sold, taken over by a new lead, etc.

Yeah that's definitely fair, I have the same concern. Currently I've reduced my extensions to just a few that I either trust (like gorhill's) or that I wrote myself. But I think it would be huge if Mozilla built out the tooling needed to keep a better monitor on them. It's an extremely hard problem to be sure though.

They already did? The have a list pf extension that are monitored by them as well authoring a few ones

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by oa834j5o »

TZubiri wrote: post #62
bearjaws wrote: post #4

Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... I migrated off Chrome as soon as this BS story about improving privacy, a joke coming from Google. Then the excuse was "well it improves performance", which they could easily do by marking extensions as low performance. If Google wanted to improve this they have an entire search engine where they could re-ran…

"Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit..." That's some fatalistic wording. How about: Company that publishes a free product and business model relies on ads, stops distributing app that piggybacks on their free product while circumventing ads.

It was never free. The revenue streams are just hidden. It has always collected and sold huge amounts of data about every user.

And regardless, using their ownership of the browser to shut down competitors is the very definition of "anti-competitive" "monopolistic" behavior.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by bad_user »

nottorp wrote: post #147
bad_user wrote: post #64

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Which is why Mozilla are getting desperate to diversify their revenue.

If only their goal would be to provide an excellent privacy browser, instead of getting revenue :) All they need is to accept donations that go strictly to the browser and not to the latest blockchain/AI hysteria.

Name a project whose development costs as much as Firefox and that survives from donations.

Many people want AI in their browser. And what does Firefox have to do with crypto?

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by mrec »

MYEUHD wrote: post #66
bdcravens wrote: post #32

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Part of what the DOJ is seeking against Google would severely impact Mozilla financially however, as they want to ban them from paying to be the default search engine.

That would be a good thing. If Firefox is funded by donations, rather than by Google, it ensures there is no enshittification in the future. And yes, donations can fund a big project, as evidenced by Thunderbird and Ladybird.

Mozilla thus far have been very reluctant to take donations to Firefox specifically. AFAIK you can still only donate to the Foundation, not the Corp, which means that most if not all of the cash will get spent on random non-Firefox-related things that you probably couldn't care less about.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by bangaladore »

jmuguy wrote: post #86

Related if anyone is switching over. I like to run Firefox Developer Edition[0] as my "work" browser, with work related bookmarks, etc. and then regular Firefox for nonwork. This makes it really easy to keep the two separate. I know there's a lot of ways to segment within the same browser but this works well for me. [0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

Chromium has a concept of "user data directories" which in theory keep all data isolated to a single folder. You can use a launch parameter to specify what the user data directory you want to use is (so a shortcut). I'm pretty sure Firefox must have an equivalent.
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