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Steve Wozniak says Tesla 'is the worst in the world' at improving its technology

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Re: Steve Wozniak says Tesla 'is the worst in the world' at improving its technology

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Model Y, 3 has no physical latch in the back seat to exit. As an owner who primarily sits in the front seat this was a significant oversight on my part. And I won’t be making it again.

What? How does one exit the car then?

There are emergency release latches. The location of the front one is obvious-ish, the rear one is not obvious at all.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC...

Re: Steve Wozniak says Tesla 'is the worst in the world' at improving its technology

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Maybe try using the "myToyota Connect" app for a day, or most any legacy carmarker's touchscreen UI, and tell me who's the worst at improving their technology. Although I do agree with Woz that not having a physical latch for opening the glovebox on the Tesla is the stupidest thing ever.

> or most any legacy carmarker's touchscreen UI

Cars do not need touchscreens to operate. They never had to so far and worked just fine.

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This story makes me laugh. The irony of an Apple co-founder chastising another company for updates that slowly and significantly make the experience worse everytime is too rich. I don’t have a Tesla and I’m fully bought into the Apple ecosystem and my god, the recent updates to the HomePod line and Siri have made it genuinely unusable. Not a single speaker can stay in sync for a whole song. And god forbid you want to…

This comment makes me laugh.

When was the last time Woz worked at Apple, and what was his rate of creation while there?

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post #22

Maybe try using the "myToyota Connect" app for a day, or most any legacy carmarker's touchscreen UI, and tell me who's the worst at improving their technology. Although I do agree with Woz that not having a physical latch for opening the glovebox on the Tesla is the stupidest thing ever.

> or most any legacy carmarker's touchscreen UI Cars do not need touchscreens to operate. They never had to so far and worked just fine.

23 Miata, generally mazda is good with physical controls on safety/driving apparatus.

Once a week (more lately), a random picture takes over car's entire UI. As in, it is stroring backup cam data, and randomly showing a photo from weeks ago until I restart the car.

Not a "deal breaker", but I functionally cannot use maps, music, the clock.

"cars do not need toiuchscreeps to operate" yeah but i paid to be able to use the car's features.

Re: Steve Wozniak says Tesla 'is the worst in the world' at improving its technology

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That's not the most important criticism of Tesla. R2R would be above and near the top. Maybe the failure to achieve significant marketshare vs. ICE, high cost, and/or specification (range) truthfulness would compete for that place too.

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> or most any legacy carmarker's touchscreen UI Cars do not need touchscreens to operate. They never had to so far and worked just fine.

23 Miata, generally mazda is good with physical controls on safety/driving apparatus. Once a week (more lately), a random picture takes over car's entire UI. As in, it is stroring backup cam data, and randomly showing a photo from weeks ago until I restart the car. Not a "deal breaker", but I functionally cannot use maps, music, the clock . "cars do not need toiuchscreeps to operate" yeah but i paid to be able to use…

I own a Mazda CX30 since 2021 and the most important buttons are all physical. There is still a screen of course, but it is not a sensitive one. Basically, after a few weeks, you reach most of the buttons through muscle memory. You never need to move your sight out of the road to start your music or anything else... So far, it has been a great experience

Re: Steve Wozniak says Tesla 'is the worst in the world' at improving its technology

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Maybe try using the "myToyota Connect" app for a day, or most any legacy carmarker's touchscreen UI, and tell me who's the worst at improving their technology. Although I do agree with Woz that not having a physical latch for opening the glovebox on the Tesla is the stupidest thing ever.

Except you don't nees to. On a Toyota tou van just use Android auto, and never deal with the Toyota infotainment thing. Also, the car hás plenty of physical buttons, so I only ever interact with touchscreen for maps.

I have the mstick4. If you have android auto, it is amazing. https://www.m-gears.com/

Re: Steve Wozniak says Tesla 'is the worst in the world' at improving its technology

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post #22

Maybe try using the "myToyota Connect" app for a day, or most any legacy carmarker's touchscreen UI, and tell me who's the worst at improving their technology. Although I do agree with Woz that not having a physical latch for opening the glovebox on the Tesla is the stupidest thing ever.

> or most any legacy carmarker's touchscreen UI Cars do not need touchscreens to operate. They never had to so far and worked just fine.

> Cars do not need touchscreens to operate.

Any car that requires me to interact with a touchscreen to do anything that I want to do while driving is, in my opinion, not fit for purpose. Of all of the malfeatures that have been incorporated into modern cars, I think touchscreens are in the top three list of the worst.

Re: Steve Wozniak says Tesla 'is the worst in the world' at improving its technology

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Maybe try using the "myToyota Connect" app for a day, or most any legacy carmarker's touchscreen UI, and tell me who's the worst at improving their technology. Although I do agree with Woz that not having a physical latch for opening the glovebox on the Tesla is the stupidest thing ever.

Why? It’s perfect - I can keep sweets and some sharp items away from kids behind a passcode.

What’s actually weird is you can’t disable/block Netflix. Kids didn’t quite figure out they can just have unfettered screen time in car just yet tho.

I’ll just add that adding second screen in back nowadays is bonkers. In my circle most of kids have 0 screen time. Screen is an antithesis of clean and quiet car.

As for rate of improvement - Tesla maybe got 1 or 2 decent new features over last 2 years of my ownership. My list of ideas when I bought it was about 20.

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