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Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by rafaelmn »

batrat wrote: post #95

(Rant sorry) While i'm from EU and I support the movement, after I looked over some numbers it is hard to ditch something like Amazon. 1st thing for me are the prices and monthly I can save at least 100 Euros just from shopping on deals. Second Amazon employs 150k people across EU and this is not a low number (how about them?). Yes we need alternatives but the rich EU guys also have to invest some. Sometimes I feel t…

Thats what every "support local" campaign boils down to - accept suboptimal deals because they are somehow more connected to you. I am glad to sell my services to the US and will buy their services, likewise for EU stuff if it is competitive.

Besides this outrage at the US from EU perspective is mind-boggling, for the first time since I can remember US is moving away from imperialist global polices, and Europe is in a position where they can become an independent global actor after WW2. Sure Trump administration isn't making the process pleasant but Europeans should be happy about these changes. And the tariff situation is nothing the EU has not been doing for decades, Trump did escalate it suddenly, but it is not like EU is not imposing massive tariffs to protect its industry, even at the expense of EU members that have no significant stakes in this industry.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by Mordisquitos »

dvh wrote: post #25
holowoodman wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong. Functionally necessary cookies like login or shopping cart cookies need no banners.

$ wget -qO - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE... | pdftotext - - | grep -i banner | wc -l 0

   Article 6
   Lawfulness of processing
   1. Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:
   (a) the data subject has given consent to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more specific purposes;
   (b) processing is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is party or in order to take steps at the request of the data subject prior to entering into a contract;
Point (a) covers purposes that require cookie-banner. Point (b) covers login or shopping cart cookies, as these are necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is party.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by jgilias »

tdrz wrote: post #107

I'm looking for a European alternative to Visa/Mastercard that works across countries, not just in one country. I know there's this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Payments_Initiative but I believe it's not operational atm.

Technology-wise this is a solved problem. Uses open-source software too. All the EU needs to do is say 'self-custody is fine, please use a EUR-based stable coin for payments EU-wide'. The market will do the rest (the stable-coin, payment terminals, integrations with cash registers, DeFi forex for places where EUR is not used, etc.).

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by rustc »

birjolaxew wrote: post #123
mertbio wrote: post #3

If you are advocating for European products, I would expect you to use Plausible or similar products instead of Google Analytics. This would allow you to avoid displaying the cookie banner.

> This would allow you to avoid displaying the cookie banner. That isn't actually true (or at least is only allowed in the "it's a small enough violation of the law that the enforcers have bigger fish to fry" sense). Cookie banners are required to gather informed consent, which is relevant for two EU legislations: the ePD, which requires it to access or store _any_ data from terminal equipment, and the GDPR which req…

> Despite Plausible's claim of not requiring cookie banners, their processing still accesses data from the terminal equipment.

Since Plausible is selling a product that clearly claims this, who is on the hook in case a user of Plausible gets a fine?

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by tacker2000 »

reaperducer wrote: post #126

I think this is useful more than just actual Europeans. I'm an American, and my wife and I have been looking at "Made in…" labels on our products for decades. Not as a geopolitical protest; just as routine intellectual curiosity. Over the last five years or so, we've noticed a significant shift in the locations listed on the things we buy. A lot of what we buy used to read "Made in China" (and before that shift, "Mad…

Turkey is not part of the EU.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by m_mueller »

dvh wrote: post #25
holowoodman wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong. Functionally necessary cookies like login or shopping cart cookies need no banners.

$ wget -qO - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE... | pdftotext - - | grep -i banner | wc -l 0

absence of evidence != evidence of absence

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by microtonal »

ChocolateGod wrote: post #67
microtonal wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know that it's not in the cards (yet), but I hope the UK and the EU can be a single market again (even if the UK does not rejoin the EU). Let's make our market as large and attractive as possible! We love the UK and you are part of the European family :hugs:.

Whilst a good idea, no politician is going to try and do it under the fear of reigniting the Brexit argument which ends up dominating politics in the country.

Yeah, that's why I don't think it's in the cards yet. On the other hand, things are very fluid now. Things that were unthinkable two months ago (e.g. Germany ending the 'debt brake') are happening now.
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