Has anybody compared claude code with clint/roo code yet?
I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
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Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
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Can’t remember account login so created a new account to respond. I recently used Claude with something along the lines of “Ruby on rails 8, Hotwire, stimulus, turbo, show me how to do client side validations that don’t require a page refresh” I am new to prompt engineering so feel free to critique. Anyway, it generated a stimulus controller called validations_controller.js and then proceeded to print out all of the…
Say you hire a developer and ask him to directly debug an issue by simply skimming through the codebase, do you think he can complete this task say in 5-10 minutes? No, right? In claude code(CC), do the following: 1. /init which acts as a project guide. 2. Ask it to summarize the project as save it as summary.md 3. The prompt needs to be clear and detailed. Here’s an example: https://imgur.com/a/RJyp3f9
I remember reading the origin article for that prompt example and laughing at how long it likely took to write that essay when typing "hikes near San Francisco" into your favoured search engine will do the same thing, minus the hallucinations.
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#393I decided to check this out after seeing the discussion here. I had previously misunderstood that it required a Claude.ai plan, but it actually just uses your API keys. I did a comparison between Claude Code and Aider (my normal go-to): I asked it to do clone a minor feature in my existing app with some minor modifications (specifically, a new global keyboard shortcut in a Swift app). Claude Code spent about 60 secon…
Same here, I did a few small taks with Claude Code after seeing this discussion here and is too expensive for me. A small change to create a script file (20 LoC) was 10cts, a quick edit to a README was 7ct Yes yes engineers make more than that blah blah but the cost would quickly jump out of control for bigger tasks. I’d easy burn through $10-20 upwards a day with this, or upwards $100-$300 a month. Unless you have a…
I use Grok and it's free (even Grok3). I definitely don't hit limits unless it's a pretty heavy day and I do a lot of adjustments. Also, don't send entire codebases to it, just one-off files. What's quite amazing is how it doesn't matter that it doesn't have the source to dependent files, it figures it out and infers what each method does based on its name and context, frigging amazing if you ask me.
And it doesn't fight me like the OpenAI tooling does that logs me out randomly every day and I have to login and spend 4 minutes copying login codes from my email or answering their stupid Captcha test. And this is on their API playground where I pay for every single call - so not like I'm trying to scrape my free chat usage as an API.
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
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Probably about 3 minutes? That's my main usage of these types of coding tools, honestly. I already know generally what I want to happen and validating that the LLM is on the right track / reached the right solution is easy. I'm not saying that "Claude Code makes me 300% more effective", but I guess it did for this (simple) task.
Are you comparing only the generation time with your coding time? How are the figures if you include the necessary step of checking the generated code? And how do these times change if you are coding in a very complex environment?
To be clear, I explicitly picked this task because my judgement call was that it was going to be faster to use an AI than coding it myself. Checking the generated code was easy for me to do (whether I or the AI wrote it).
I don't know what you mean by "how do these times change if you are coding in a very complex environment", but to restate my original post: I'm fearful that Claude's additional autonomy will allow it to waste money (and time) pursuing useless ideas.
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
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Do you have an example of this?
are you in the habit of saving bad LLM output to later reference in future Internet disputes?
??? A zillion LLM tools maintain history for you automatically. As long as you remember what the chat was about, it's only a search away.
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
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It must be said, preferably in bold, that: > this pervasive sense that "the way to do things now" is seemingly inseparable from a credit card number and monthly charge …is true, but it only applies to experienced engineers who can sculpt the whole solution using these tools, not just random code. You need the whole learning effort to be able to ground the code the slop generators make. The passion absolutely helps he…
in 2027 a lot programming will simply be a question of who has the largest LLM budget. I wonder what it means for the open source...
In 2028, the question will be who spent more money on lawsuits, and who spent more money on consultants to clean up their code base.
Jokes aside, code tools are best used in the hands of someone who is already trained and can verify bad code, and bad patterns at a glance.
AI code passes many tests. So does a lot of code written by us, for ourselves. When the code gets in front of users, especially the kind of genius users who learn how to fly by forgetting how to fall, then we learn many good habits.
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
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I think the interest has more to do with who is doing the tweeting, don't you think?
Reminder: "appeal to authority" is a classical logical fallacy. For me, I don't know this person, which means that all the words are completely meaningless. Which is exactly the point.
Exception: Be very careful not to confuse "deferring to an authority on the issue" with the appeal to authority fallacy. Remember, a fallacy is an error in reasoning. Dismissing the council of legitimate experts and authorities turns good skepticism into denialism. The appeal to authority is a fallacy in argumentation, but deferring to an authority is a reliable heuristic that we all use virtually every day on issues of relatively little importance. There is always a chance that any authority can be wrong, that’s why the critical thinker accepts facts provisionally. It is not at all unreasonable (or an error in reasoning) to accept information as provisionally true by credible authorities. Of course, the reasonableness is moderated by the claim being made (i.e., how extraordinary, how important) and the authority (how credible, how relevant to the claim).
Quotation from https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-...
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
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The first half is correct, but the conclusions shouldn’t be ‘we’re replicating our software engineers with Claude today’, they’re ‘our experienced engineers just 10x their productivity, we’ll never need to hire an intern’
I'm pondering where this "AI-automated programming" trend is heading. For example: thirty years ago, FX trading was executed by a bunch of human traders. Then, computers arrived on the scene, which made all of them practically obsolete. Nowadays FX trading is executed by a collection of automated algorithms, being monitored by few quants. My question is: is the software development in 2025 basically like what the for…
My take is something like the following:
With industrialisation blacksmiths were replaced by assembly lines. I'm sure that blacksmiths are more flexible and capable in almost any important dimension, but the economics of factories just made more sense.
I expect that when the dust settles (assuming that the dust settles), that most software will be an industrial product. The humans involved in its creation will be engineers and not craftsmen. Today we have machinists and industrial engineers - not blacksmiths.
Quality and quality assurance processes will become more important, I also expect optimised production processes. I think a lot of the software ecosystem is a baroque set of over-engineered (or over crafted) steps and processes and this will probably be refactored.
I expect code quality metrics to be super refined. Craftsmen don't usually produce artifacts to the tolerances that our machines do now - code will be the same. I expect automated correctness proofs, specification languages, enhanced type systems to have a renaissance.
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#399I must be the dumbest "prompt engineer" ever, each time I ask an AI to fix or even worse, create something from scratch it rarely returns the right answer and when asked for modification it will struggle even more. All the incredible performance and success stories always come from these Twitter posts, I do find value in asking simple but tedious task like a small refactor or generate commands, but this "AI takes the…
I have the same experience
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here, I did a few small taks with Claude Code after seeing this discussion here and is too expensive for me. A small change to create a script file (20 LoC) was 10cts, a quick edit to a README was 7ct Yes yes engineers make more than that blah blah but the cost would quickly jump out of control for bigger tasks. I’d easy burn through $10-20 upwards a day with this, or upwards $100-$300 a month. Unless you have a…
I use Grok and it's free (even Grok3). I definitely don't hit limits unless it's a pretty heavy day and I do a lot of adjustments. Also, don't send entire codebases to it, just one-off files. What's quite amazing is how it doesn't matter that it doesn't have the source to dependent files, it figures it out and infers what each method does based on its name and context, frigging amazing if you ask me. And it doesn't f…
You send your company's trade secrets directly to Elon Musk?