Interesting to read the perspective of Americans who don't understand that different countries have different election systems, and that Canada doesn't directly elect their PMs.
Neither does the US (President or PM, which they don't have). ;)
Mark Carney is the new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
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Re: Mark Carney is the new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
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Potentially temporarily - the tariffs and 51st state rhetoric has really shifted the polling there from an easy conservative win to a liberal resurgence
That's not really accurate. What we have is one unhinged far left polster (ekos) doing very questionable thing to skew the average and some weirdness out of ipsos occasionally. You can see many of the individual polls here: https://338canada.com/polls.htm I'm not going to bother posting the deleted twitter rants from the guy that runs ekos, but he's ruining his reputation right now because nobody will believe him aft…
Every poll shows a massive liberal resurgence. Only a few suggest that they're currently in the lead.
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That's not really accurate. What we have is one unhinged far left polster (ekos) doing very questionable thing to skew the average and some weirdness out of ipsos occasionally. You can see many of the individual polls here: https://338canada.com/polls.htm I'm not going to bother posting the deleted twitter rants from the guy that runs ekos, but he's ruining his reputation right now because nobody will believe him aft…
Every poll shows a massive liberal resurgence. Only a few suggest that they're currently in the lead.
Yes, I provided you a list of the vast majority of polling that has happened going all the way back to 2021. There was even a nice graph that does show the resurgence you are talking about but also mostly shows it's not anywhere near enough to change the result from conservative majority, pretty much except for ekos polling (there are some other shenanigans going on in here but they are kind of minor compared to the bold face lying with statistics ekos is almost certainly doing). This is the new guy bump to largely unknown Carney from terrible trudeau. Carney is getting known now and getting linked to all the same stupid things that pissed people off about trudeau and you will see his poll results slide every week here as that process happens. It's not going to help him that he is going to get absolutely crushed in the english debate and absolutely crushed without realizing it because his french is terrible in the french debate either.
Re: Mark Carney is the new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
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Carbon tax is toxic in Canada. Bashing it is like a quarter of the conservative's platform. There's an interview with the former Minister of Environment who pushed through carbon pricing ( https://thetyee.ca/News/2025/02/11/Catherine-McKenna-Intervi... - note this is a thoroughly left leaning newspaper). She notes that she felt the government's failure to properly communicate/advertise about how carbon pricing works…
It's more that it's a dumb idea in the face of other government regulations making it impossible to substitute (looking at you mostly zoning making walking, biking, and public transit best case being extremely inconvenient vs car and severely limiting accommodation choice to mostly very low density car required single family or a very small supply mostly ancient missing middle options or sky scrapers.) This makes the…
Can you explain what you mean by making every[one?] noticeably poorer when they have most to all of their payment reimbursed? (for the median individual it is more like "all to more" since the carbon credit is not capped at one's individual carbon tax payments)
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We need people with more sense than empathy. Closed borders, criminals in prison instead of the streets, etc. I don't care that much about the S&P--I want to walk to lunch without having to dodge homeless encampments. The fundamental purpose of government is to provide an orderly, clean society for the majority, and our government has been doing a bad job of that.
Re: Mark Carney is the new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
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Why is that?
The next Canadian federal election will be no later than October 20, 2025. Possibly much sooner. While Carney's party has seen a bump in the polls recently (thanks to Trump) which changed the predicted result from an opposition blowout to merely an opposition lead, Carney is nowhere near as good a communicator as Trudeau and will likely not do well in the polls.
His opponent is a much worse communicator though and can't think on his feet.
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#57> On that note, he announced the carbon tax would soon be cancelled. I'm super-disappointed. The carbon tax is the most effective market-based mechanism for controlling carbon dioxide emissions. The majority of economists support it, while political support trails behind significantly. Also, it's disingenuous to only focus on axing the carbon tax without mentioning that the quarterly refund to every resident of Canad…
He will be replacing it with a different carbon tax. Canada cannot not have a carbon tax as it is part of many of their trade agreements. Of course, this means the opponent party would also have to replace it with some other carbon tax.
Re: Mark Carney is the new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
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We need people with more sense than empathy. Closed borders, criminals in prison instead of the streets, etc. I don't care that much about the S&P--I want to walk to lunch without having to dodge homeless encampments. The fundamental purpose of government is to provide an orderly, clean society for the majority, and our government has been doing a bad job of that.
(By not addressing the point, I assume you just support the further destruction of our economy and drastically decreased standard of living in the future? Okay then, moving on to your different point...)
Yes, I agree that we need people with the sense to reject empathizing with performative cruelty and the siren song of fascism. It never ends well.
At this point, we'd be better off with criminals just on the streets instead of also in the White House. The fish rots from the head.
I don't know what you mean by "our government" is doing a poor job at making safe/clean cities. I'm pretty sure we live in different states, and striking a three way balance of carrot-stick-chaos is the job of state and municipal governments.
I sidestep the issue by living somewhere less dense, but yes the general inability to scale American cities while maintaining order and individual freedom is a failure of social technology (one that certainly isn't helped by the aforementioned rotting fish head!). On the other hand, cities have been getting better despite all of the sensationalist reporting - I would much rather walk around NYC in the present day than in the 70's.
But I'd also expect that a lowered standard of living will make cities worse, so perhaps you should actually care about that issue too.
Re: Mark Carney is the new leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
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It's more that it's a dumb idea in the face of other government regulations making it impossible to substitute (looking at you mostly zoning making walking, biking, and public transit best case being extremely inconvenient vs car and severely limiting accommodation choice to mostly very low density car required single family or a very small supply mostly ancient missing middle options or sky scrapers.) This makes the…
Can you explain what you mean by making every[one?] noticeably poorer when they have most to all of their payment reimbursed? (for the median individual it is more like "all to more" since the carbon credit is not capped at one's individual carbon tax payments)
I mean table 1 in the PBO's report on the subject: https://www.pbo-dpb.ca/en/publications/RP-2425-017-S--distri...
There was also estimates for earlier years than 2030 but I don't have the time to dig them up right now and they are also net negative. They don't have all their payment reimbursed because they pay carbon tax on all their purchases indirectly via buying goods whose price has inflated due to carbon tax on transport, inputs, etc.
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Can you explain what you mean by making every[one?] noticeably poorer when they have most to all of their payment reimbursed? (for the median individual it is more like "all to more" since the carbon credit is not capped at one's individual carbon tax payments)
I mean table 1 in the PBO's report on the subject: https://www.pbo-dpb.ca/en/publications/RP-2425-017-S--distri... There was also estimates for earlier years than 2030 but I don't have the time to dig them up right now and they are also net negative. They don't have all their payment reimbursed because they pay carbon tax on all their purchases indirectly via buying goods whose price has inflated due to carbon tax on…
Ah yes, I see what you are getting at.
But to clarify the report's indirect costs is not due to (just) indirect costs on buying goods transported by carbon tax, but the report's additional "economic factors" is due to "the loss in employment and investment income".
But I personally find this take in their report unfair because the the alternative of not having the carbon tax isn't really the status quo, because there is an "economic cost" from climate change such as 'the interior of BC being hotter than death valley' and 'the town of Jasper burning down'.
That said, I do see that I'm rationalizing my personal beliefs on this topic, and that is also unfair.