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Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

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Damnit I remember when they were less than $1 and thinking to myself "this will never take off". If I had invested $100, I could have sold today for $1K.

And likewise if I had just picked the numbers 2,5,6,7,11,20 in last week's lottery I would have been an overnight multi-millionaire.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

#32

Am I the only one to think Bitcoin is just a big Ponzi scheme benefiting the first users/creators who got all the first ones?

Bitcoins are used quite a bit for buying/selling goods. I think the latest round of currency increases is mostly a function of people wanting to purchase goods, and needing to "bid up the price" in order to make their purchase. As vendors receive bitcoins, they usually immediately sell them to get back local currency.

In the last 6 months, I've never held onto a bitcoin for more than about 30 minutes. Strictly use them for their utility as a currency.

Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

#33

I really don't get Bitcoin. What is the point in a currency that ranges from $2 USD to $12 USD in a year ?

Commission-free electronic transactions with anyone in the world?

I think the anonymity and decentralized design are more important than the small transaction fees. As a sibling comment points out, there are still fees for converting to and from national currencies, which are much less volatile.

Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Commission-free electronic transactions with anyone in the world?

So it is free to convert from USD to Bitcoin and vice versa ? Because clearly I wouldn't want to hold anything in Bitcoin for a long period of time due to its instability.

Correct - in fact (unless you were a speculator) you wouldn't want to hold onto anything in bitcoin for more than the time required to clear a transaction.

Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>We have no evidence to the contrary except the previous mega-crash. >bitcoin being a deflationary uh, no, it's not yet. Masses of new bitcoins are being created every day. That is inflationary (and much more so than USD). @greg_bt: it matters little how you frame it, but the supply of bitcoins is increasing. It will gradually reduce and stop, all of which is predetermined, yes. Today it is inflationary (IIRC its abo…

I don't know if 'bitcoins are being created every day' is the right way of looking at it? Bitcoins are more discovered as opposed to created. It would be like if every USD ever was buried and people were gradually digging them out of the ground and everyone knew exactly how many were buried? The amount of bitcoins in circulation is increasing but the total amount of bitcoins that will ever exist isn't increasing at a…

It's also increasing at a controlled rate. To make your analogy more complete, it'd be like all the diggers are aware of each other and whether they've found a USD or not. If too many are being found at once, everyone switches to using their hands. If still too many are found, everyone uses their tongues. If too few are being found, shovels are allowed. If still too few are being found, backhoes are allowed.

Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

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This won't last; is a bitcoin at least as valuable as 10 USD for people who use BTC?

SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN SAYING? Who are you to make a claim as to if it will last or if it won't or how valuable bitcoins are. >This won't last We have no evidence to the contrary, and in fact, bitcoin being a deflationary currency by definition means it will likely increase in value and, what's more, if you look at the trend it has been increasing in value. If you were to use a single shred of logic th…

>" bitcoin being a deflationary currency by definition means it will likely increase in value"

Why would yo want a deflationary currency? This promotes people "holding" onto the money with the hopes of getting a better deal in the future.

ie. Why buy that $50 USD item for 5 BTC, when at the current rate it might be worth 4.5 BTC by next month? This is a burden on a currency and commerce.

Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

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This won't last; is a bitcoin at least as valuable as 10 USD for people who use BTC?

As long as its crypto primitives remain secure (SHA-256, Elliptic Curve crypto, RIPEMD), if the Bitcoin economy continues to grow 5x, 10x, 20x, etc, then its value should increase 5x, 10x, 20x, etc, because there is a fixed number of coins available. Both of these assumptions are likely. So I would say, yes, this exchange rate should last (of course there will be some bumps on the road, bubbles, crashes, etc).

there is a fixed number of coins available.

Not necessarily true!

There is slow growth in coins. But if it takes off then we know all of the primitives to make a second bitcoin. Establish one with a price peg to existing bitcoin. If you maintain it long and well enough, it will become accepted as equivalent. Once that happens you've done a big one-time increase in the supply.

In fact I would recommend doing this at some point. Because otherwise bitcoin has built-in deflation. That is bad economically because it discourages investment in anything else, like building businesses.

Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

#38

I really don't get Bitcoin. What is the point in a currency that ranges from $2 USD to $12 USD in a year ?

there is no "point", but this currency is very young in immature. If we had as many bitcoins as dimes on the market and 99,9% of businesses would accept them, then you wouldnt see such a fluctuations. To me looks like Bitcoin is a huge win! Imagine if people are willing to put their dollars in it, knowingly being aware this roller coaster can run from $2 to $12 and back to $2, then imagine its popularity when we have enough coins on market and enough businesses are accepting them.

Kudos to first adopters!

Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

#39

I really don't get Bitcoin. What is the point in a currency that ranges from $2 USD to $12 USD in a year ?

The main point is that it is decentralized and (ostensibly, with enough care) anonymous. This makes it ideal for illegal transactions (drugs, gambling, weapons, contract killing, child pornography). These being incredibly inelastic goods, price fluctuations will do little to hamper continued growth of the Bitcoin.

I dont buy it just like Feds apparently dont buy it either (yet); otherwise they would be already shutting it down.

While bitcoins can be used for illegal transactions, it does not mean (and never will) that 99% of transactions will be illegal, just like Feds won't shut down knife factory because some knifes were used to kill. At the end, paying for something illegal is not illegal on its own; its the act or good you paying for illegal. So this or another way, in order to sentence someone, Feds will need more proof of a comited crime, than just blunt bitcoins transactions (how about crime itself).

Re: 1 Bitcoin Worth 10 USD

#40

If you look at this data over the max range ( http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zv ) then it looks a lot like the Gartner Hype cycle ( http://bit.ly/N1XCnb ). I wonder if Bitcoin is past the trough of disillusionment and ready for a serious explosion?

This is exactly what Wired magazine pointed out last year: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/all/ And this was before the big rally that occurred around New Years.
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