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How often are children genetically unrelated to their presumed fathers?

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Re: How often are children genetically unrelated to their presumed fathers?

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Post by asacrowflies »

123yawaworht456 wrote: post #85
Thiez wrote: post #78

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This 'random kid' stuff is absurd. The child is five or older. For all these years you have been calling it 'my son' or 'my daughter', and it has been calling you 'papa' or 'dad'. You've changed its diapers, sang it to sleep, fed it, clothed it, played with it, taught it words, hugged it after a bad dream. You are its world. If after all that time it turns out to be not genetically yours I'm sure that hurts. Probably…

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>my brother in Christ, people abandon their biological children all the time without anyone clutching their pearls about it

I'm pretty sure a father abndoning a child like that is one of the most taboo social nonos a human can commit I'm almost any culture? Where I am from in rural america physical vigilante violence is reserved for such types. So yes very pearl clutching

Re: How often are children genetically unrelated to their presumed fathers?

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Post by cess11 »

dang wrote: post #90
cess11 wrote: post #33

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In my headcanon the downvotes are from dudes that read The Selfish Gene in high school and got some feeling of epiphany, and now did a bit of web searching that angered them. Dawkins is a radical genetic reductionist, this book is his defense of this position. In the face of criticism he has moved on from the conclusions he presents in it towards a focus on phenotype reminiscent of older biological paradigms. One obv…

Can you please edit out swipes and putdowns from your posts here? Your comment contains some interesting information and would be much better without that first sentence. We've had to ask you this more than once recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42605019 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42554816 If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended sp…

No, I can't, I'm not allowed to edit the post.

Re: How often are children genetically unrelated to their presumed fathers?

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Post by InDubioProRubio »

InDubioProRubio wrote: post #3
ggm wrote: post #2

Nurture not nature!

Unless it culture wide problematic nurture! Then silence and passing the ball back to nature! Oh, and unrealistic, idealising nurture due to unwillingness to look at nature. That nurtures problems, we do not deal with rational, instead we accumulate problems and shift the blame, until the buildup throws society on the side. Oh, and if invisible nature, we pretend to nurture, then blame the failings on the individual.…

Also, we cant have the meta, as in we cant have a discussion on our inabilities, retardations and the handicaps they inflict and how that influences the options and realistic futures humanity can have. No, its startrek or bust- a gentle approach, with self-control enhanced by gadgetry and low risk be damned.

Re: How often are children genetically unrelated to their presumed fathers?

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Post by zombot »

benterix wrote: post #57
zombot wrote: post #25

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It may be normal, but is it productive? What will you do? Stop loving your child, punish the mother? You may be better off not knowing the answer and being OK with that.

I can't imagine stopping loving the child, even if it's not "mine" because the nature of fatherly love is more based on a common bond that starts from zero and rises slowly, developing more once the child starts speaking and they can have a more meaningful relationship. As for your partner, the State saying you cannot verify whether they have been cheating to you or not is a huge step in the wrong direction. because…

The a-hole convention here disapproves of such leniency.

Re: How often are children genetically unrelated to their presumed fathers?

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Post by dang »

cess11 wrote: post #93
dang wrote: post #90

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Can you please edit out swipes and putdowns from your posts here? Your comment contains some interesting information and would be much better without that first sentence. We've had to ask you this more than once recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42605019 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42554816 If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended sp…

No, I can't, I'm not allowed to edit the post.

The request is to edit them out of your future posts. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Re: How often are children genetically unrelated to their presumed fathers?

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Post by cess11 »

dang wrote: post #96
cess11 wrote: post #93

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No, I can't, I'm not allowed to edit the post.

The request is to edit them out of your future posts. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Right, I'll do my best to keep that in mind.

Re: How often are children genetically unrelated to their presumed fathers?

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Post by [deleted] »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #73
thefz wrote: post #70

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> then the French state/taxpayer has to pick up the tab for the mother's adultery Why not the biological father? That would make sense.

How would the state force the mother to track down the men she slept with and get them to do paternity tests to prove they're the ones responsible to pay child support? Sometimes the father can be from a different country.

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