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US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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Post by hkyu12 »

lif wrote: post #701
hkyu12 wrote: post #463

So much warmongering going on here. The site where majority used to call to end US as world police, stop interfering and instigating overthrowing government now wants the opposite. This site is surely astroturfed or suddenly people have turned violent.

I can assure you that there would never be any chance of paid shill brigades shouting down opposing viewpoints on HackerNews. Instead, as I have been informed many times, posts critical of Trump are being flagged. The posts that make it through then naturally are flooded with independent thinkers who just happen to all be in agreement. I mean, how could you not agree with them, right? Those who disagree about this pa…

Deep thinking, civil discourse? Your comment even indicates that if you disagree you are russian troll. How come a left leaning site become a rabid warmongering right leaning one. It seems like left and right switched sides on some issues.

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Post by jmward01 »

ifyoubuildit wrote: post #639
joshdavham wrote: post #408

Regarding flagging: I think the worry is that, with all the political news constantly generated by Donald in the white house, HN might get submerged by politics constantly rather than the hacker-related stuff we all come here for.

That and the discussions are basically devoid of any new info or insight. If you were to take a random comment from each of these threads, youd probably have a hard time telling which came from where.

True. This post is just being used as a reason to continue previous threads with very little connection to the submission. I am of two minds on this. The first is 'I want my life to be about cool tech and interesting ideas' and the second is 'This is a critical moment in history so people need to discuss it more than anything else'. At this exact moment I lean towards the latter so I think it is, unfortunately, important to get everyone out into discussion and action even in discussion forums like HN.

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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Post by mola »

ssssvd wrote: post #593
RandyOrion wrote: post #161

When totalitarian governments all start applauding what you're doing, using what you're doing as a distraction from a bad domestic situation as well as a justification for their dictatorships, you should know that something is totally screwed up. Yes, I'm talking about the totalitarian governments of China and Russia.

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20% of Israel citizenship is Arab, they get equal rights. Parliamentary representatives etc. they even get affirmative action in getting higher education. Is it perfect? No Half the country is fighting the other half to keep us a western democracy. But every time ignorants post half baked opinions and paint us as pure evil, more ppl here say, fuck it.

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Post by gizzlon »

TheBlight wrote: post #406
Springtime wrote: post #391

The article is written to give the reader the impression only the US can reprogram the jamming system and the comments seem to mostly be taking it at face value. In the very Forbes article the OP's article cites it links to info about this F-16 reprogramming effort[1], showing it was collaboration between the US/Norway/Denmark and that the US electronic warfare team wasn't familiar with the system, yet within two wee…

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> hysterical leftists

How so? As an European and quite pro-US for a long time, i have turned quite sharply against, for example, buying US weapons.

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Post by pseudony »

Gollapalli wrote: post #431
legitster wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article pretty clearly explains how important the missile jamming feature is, and that Ukraine has to switch to other planes and equipment.

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And as you aptly demonstrated. You don't care about the security needs of your allies.

As for free support. Have you any clue how much economy of scale is unlocked by selling to other markets ? You profit from the sales, you profit from lower per-unit costs.

Anyway. Whatever, you can count on the feeling being mutual soon, we are so done with you..

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Post by esalman »

ta988 wrote: post #228

And the story continues. This means that no country will want to buy F16s. If you don't get support they are useless. They are eroding really fast the US shine and trust in the world. This is going to have a massive effect on the US economy, internal consumption will not save it. This is the end of an empire while its rich kings are golfing every weekend on the taxpayer dime using federal and local resources. I am re…

If US shine and trust is based on proliferation of war then it probably deserves to erode.

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Post by riehwvfbk »

addicted wrote: post #578
ta988 wrote: post #228

And the story continues. This means that no country will want to buy F16s. If you don't get support they are useless. They are eroding really fast the US shine and trust in the world. This is going to have a massive effect on the US economy, internal consumption will not save it. This is the end of an empire while its rich kings are golfing every weekend on the taxpayer dime using federal and local resources. I am re…

How can any reasonable national leader justify building their military on American systems anymore? Especially now that the U.S. government is also talking about not living up to its NATO obligations. This is not gonna hurt the rest of the world. Defense is where the U.S. exports a lot. So cutting back on U.S. weaponry will only help other nations. The same is true of Tech. Currently the tech industry is global, but…

How do they justify buying US war tech? By understanding what the US will do to their country if they don't buy it, and figuring out how to sugar coat this to their populace.
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