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US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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And the story continues. This means that no country will want to buy F16s. If you don't get support they are useless. They are eroding really fast the US shine and trust in the world. This is going to have a massive effect on the US economy, internal consumption will not save it. This is the end of an empire while its rich kings are golfing every weekend on the taxpayer dime using federal and local resources. I am re…

A strong economy only exists with a strong democracy. Billionaires thought this administration would be good for them, but they are just as stupid as anyone.

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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post #228

And the story continues. This means that no country will want to buy F16s. If you don't get support they are useless. They are eroding really fast the US shine and trust in the world. This is going to have a massive effect on the US economy, internal consumption will not save it. This is the end of an empire while its rich kings are golfing every weekend on the taxpayer dime using federal and local resources. I am re…

How can any reasonable national leader justify building their military on American systems anymore? Especially now that the U.S. government is also talking about not living up to its NATO obligations. This is not gonna hurt the rest of the world. Defense is where the U.S. exports a lot. So cutting back on U.S. weaponry will only help other nations. The same is true of Tech. Currently the tech industry is global, but…

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Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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European defence companies are about to see the biggest demand boom of our lifetime.

The Soviet arms industry experienced a similar boom in the 1980s due to an eye wateringly expensive arms race with America. Spoiler alert: it did not end well for them. Putin is setting another trap.

Trump wants to cut the military as well, so it will be double disastrous for the US military complex.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/13/defense-stocks-drop-after-tr...

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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Am I reading this right? Nothing has been disabled, they're no longer sending frequency updates? Not even clear if this is related to the current spat.

> the Biden Air Force was able to keep up with the Russian adaptation by constantly tweaking the AN/ALQ-131 frequencies, under Trump, Ukrainian pilots are not receiving updates, and the programs could soon become obsolete.

If so, title seems inflammatory. Not that I support the action, just saying it should be characterized accurately

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually we just want the war in Ukraine to end. Hope that helps. There's a lot of bloviating from the chattering class about cozying up to Russia, but I've yet to hear a cogent alternative. And no, I don't think "endlessly funding Ukraine to a forever stalemate" qualifies.

Because conflict ended for good when crimea was annexed...

Fair point. If only we had stretched that over decades and spent billions of dollars. I guess it could have been a lot more expensive?

Still waiting on the alternative plan.

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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Regarding flagging: I think the worry is that, with all the political news constantly generated by Donald in the white house, HN might get submerged by politics constantly rather than the hacker-related stuff we all come here for.

That and the discussions are basically devoid of any new info or insight. If you were to take a random comment from each of these threads, youd probably have a hard time telling which came from where.
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