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How do you process the news?

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Re: How do you process the news?

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I decided to go "founder mode" on my news-consuming experience. The "founder" here being Tim-Berners Lee, whose vision was for an internet of dumb pipes where the view layer was controlled by the end-user. News sites have trashed their user experience in search of ad revenue and clicks. But many have RSS feeds, so I created a PHP web page running on localhost that pulls in RSS feeds from news websites. I have only go…

What is the advertisement intrusion like with this setup? Do you still see some version of those godforsaken banner ads?

Re: How do you process the news?

#12
You shouldn't process the news, at least not the big ones anyway.

Most news nowadays is mostly slop with clickbait headlines of breaking news, designed to get you to pay for "premium" and have to jump through hoops of paywalls.

It is best if mega news organizations just ultimately shut down at this point, we don't need more news.

The closest one I read is Tortoise (1), which is part of slow journalism(2) which I support at the very least, as soon as I see clickbait, I jump off.

(1) https://www.tortoisemedia.com/

(2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_journalism

Re: How do you process the news?

#13
I 'process' the 'news' by following RSS feeds for a diverse (as in 'diversity of opinion', the only diversity which really counts) set of sources which gives a relatively clear view on what those sources consider worth reporting and how they report on those subjects. It also shows which subjects are not reported on by some sources which in itself is an interesting observation. I follow both legacy media sources as well as 'new media' - sometimes called 'alternative media' but that term no longer applies now that these new media are moving past legacy media in both reach as well as public trust - which gives as wide a view of current events as feasible. I initially just compare headlines, then read deeper into those subjects which are of interest to me. Many legacy media just regurgitate whatever the larger press agencies have published, some legacy media from e.g. the Netherlands (which has seen an alarming consolidation of legacy media which now mostly are owned by the same Belgian company) publish the same articles across several titles.

Generally speaking new media is better/more reliable when it comes to digging deep into specific subjects while legacy media is still better at reporting on current events due to their larger ability to field reporters. Their reporting tends to be heavily biased which often becomes clear once new media starts reporting on the same subjects.

So, the process consists mainly of scanning headlines, comparing reporting between different outlets on subjects and selectively diving deeper into subjects of interest. New media have made large strides and now surpass legacy media in some ways but they need to add the ability to field reporters to react to current events. Television is dead, radio is largely dead, printed news is largely dead. Sites like archive.org are getting more important by the day with the diminishing presence of printed news media because they are the only way to keep track of how online sources reported on past events.

Re: How do you process the news?

#14
Distantly.

I'll scan headlines a few times per day, and read the odd story. One problem I'm encountering with websites, aside from the ads and annoyances, is that much of the news seems curiously irrelevant.

There's a list of text-only news sites which ... slightly ... improves the situation, but only just, as few media outlets bother to organise their text-only offerings. What's generated is typically an unordered jumble of clickbaitish headlines. That said, the listing:

https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-text-only-new-sites/>

Of those I'll hit NPR, CNN, and the Christian Science Monitor most often.

CNN annoyed me so much that I looked under the hood ... and found that the URLs encode both a news topic and date along with a title, e.g., from current headlines:

  https://lite.cnn.com/2025/03/08/us/long-island-fire-suffolk-county/index.html
Link: https://lite.cnn.com/2025/03/08/us/long-island-fire-suffolk-...>

So, that's an 8 Mar 2025 article in US News about fires on Long Island.

Turns out that it's a SMOP[1] to extract URLs and headlines from the published Web page, and regenerate a far more useful page grouped by subject heading. Another interesting side effect is that I've accumulated an archive of > 4,400 stories published since mid-December 2024 and can easily run statistics on the story distribution. There are 30 sections, which I've aggregated to a smaller set of five, represented as follows:

  US:        1298 (29.29%)
  World:      917 (20.70%)
  Business:   638 (14.40%)
  Science:    371 (8.37%)
  Trivia:    1207 (27.24%)
  ----------------------------------------
  Total:     4431 / 4431  [0] (sections crosscheck)
Note that nearly a third of the "news" is trivia topics (Travel, Food, Homes, Entertainment, Sport, Style, CNN). A deeper look at both US and World news shows that about 2/3 of the former is relatively minor nonsystematic crime, and the latter is entertainment / gossip / personality. It's not that CNN leans one way or the other, it's just mostly irrelevant.

(I'd started the project in part to quantify how much this was the case, and to dump all the trivia in one place so I didn't have to parse individual headlines to suss out what was what.)

Other sites are less amenable to this as they use random strings in URLs (e.g., Financial Times and NPR). Most website, even the so-called "lite" or "text" versions, read quite poorly in a terminal-based browser (I favour w3m, but others differ little).

I'll listen to foreign news services a fair bit, including CBC, BBC, ABC (Australia), Deutschlandfunk, and more. I find the quality of foreign-service news seems a bit better than most US sources. Most of these are via podcast.

I've been listening to The World, out of WBUR Boston. Unlike virtually all audio/video news these days, the programme is pre-recorded and edited. Its focus tends to reduce US-centric news, which I prefer, and what I find is that the editing and pre-recording make the segments (reports and interviews largely) far less disjoint than, say, NPR, BBC, or the PBS News Hour, which I find all but unlistenable.

Among other podcasts are those focusing heavily on philosophy and history, which I find tend to inform on current events without wallowing in them. Peter Adamson's History of Philosophy, David Runciman's History of Ideas (and his several earlier podcasts), Stephen West's Philosophize This, and Nigel Warberton and David Edmunds's Philosophy Bites are all high on my list. Among those dealing with contemporary politics, Ezra Klein tends to be insightful without being overly grating or outrage-inducing, while also including a range of guests across the political spectrum (though he quite admittedly leans left), while also managing to generally keep them away from thought-stopping cliches and stale talking points by pushing back gently but effectively in a way that few interviewers seem capable of. Runciman also has this skill, though it's less often evidenced, see his Intelligence Squared (UK) appearances for good examples.

For those interested, my CNN category breakdown is:

   489 (11.04%)   US News
   809 (18.26%)   US Politics
    76  (1.72%)   World
   111  (2.51%)   World -- Americas
    62  (1.40%)   World -- Africa
   112  (2.53%)   World -- Asia
    29  (0.65%)   World -- Australia
    37  (0.84%)   World -- China
    17  (0.38%)   World -- India
   260  (5.87%)   World -- Europe
   183  (4.13%)   World -- MidEast
    30  (0.68%)   World -- UK
    91  (2.05%)   Economy
   369  (8.33%)   Business
     1  (0.02%)   Markets
    85  (1.92%)   Tech
     2  (0.05%)   Cars
    11  (0.25%)   Investing
    79  (1.78%)   Media
   112  (2.53%)   Science
   170  (3.84%)   Health
    48  (1.08%)   Weather
    41  (0.93%)   Climate
   163  (3.68%)   Travel
    26  (0.59%)   Food
     3  (0.07%)   Homes
   496 (11.19%)   Sport
   405  (9.14%)   Entertainment
   109  (2.46%)   Style
     5  (0.11%)   CNN 10 Minutes
That runs ~12 Dec 2024 through today, and is de-duplicated, though it's also based on when I've happened to request the latest CNN headlines, and may miss some stories. Ordering is roughly by my level of interest and/or what seems to be logical classification to me. I've picked up a few additional classifications (e.g., "CNN 10 Minutes" and "Cars") after my initial run, there is some logic to make previously unknown categories jump out.

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Notes:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_matter_of_programming>

Re: How do you process the news?

#15
post #6

I decided to go "founder mode" on my news-consuming experience. The "founder" here being Tim-Berners Lee, whose vision was for an internet of dumb pipes where the view layer was controlled by the end-user. News sites have trashed their user experience in search of ad revenue and clicks. But many have RSS feeds, so I created a PHP web page running on localhost that pulls in RSS feeds from news websites. I have only go…

What is the advertisement intrusion like with this setup? Do you still see some version of those godforsaken banner ads?

I use Ublock Origin (an ad-blocking extension) to hide images. So ads are always hidden to begin with.

Re: How do you process the news?

#16
Media's aim is to keep people emotionally hooked on short term directional adjustments in political trajectory, including the presented minutia of the events that seem to determine it.

The only way to consume news, without subjecting oneself to the inner turmoil that the news is designed to produce, is to develop a long term theory and then just check in with the headlines to make sure that things are progressing toward it.

If they don't seem to be, adjust the theory and then keep-on with the aforementioned method.

Sure, some people emotionally need to be apprised of the tragedy of every story. They may even convince themselves that the World's trajectory hangs on the balance of every event. I'd suggest that this is both irrational and hints at addiction behavior. But if this isn't you, or you want to become less addicted, then give the above method a try.

After awhile, you'll begin to admire the efficiency of and relative inner-peace from your new hard-won detachment skill.

Re: How do you process the news?

#18
feel sad for the guy that the attention economy on politically induced steroids (aka news) forces him into „hiding“. Kudos though for the self awareness.

I as a former progressive that worked in and with publishing houses had the exact opposite experience:

Although I was on their political side, all the news just became boring. Once you‘ve been part of that media-culture and you know your ilk and how little thought-diversity exists, you already know where a news item will go before you‘ve read it.

Since he‘s already in Switzerland he might better subscribe to the great https://weltwoche.ch/ – one will probably respond with „those are putin trolls“ to which i‘d respond „he doesn’t seem to have a general issue with subscribing to govt-aligned press“ (Le monde diplomatique, Bellingcat).

there are no objective news, people always have opinions (and those without have less reason to write about it) and the toolset to make them look objective is excessive. And thus enticing.

If you’re not willing to engage (at least from time to time) with the opposing view you‘ve risk cornering yourself like the author did.

Re: How do you process the news?

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post #16

Media's aim is to keep people emotionally hooked on short term directional adjustments in political trajectory, including the presented minutia of the events that seem to determine it. The only way to consume news, without subjecting oneself to the inner turmoil that the news is designed to produce, is to develop a long term theory and then just check in with the headlines to make sure that things are progressing tow…

Another fun thing to do, along a similar train of thought, is to use something like the internet archive [1] to go look at your news site of choice, a year or two back, and see how their attention-grabbing predictions and declarations played out.

In general, they won't. And this newfound knowledge can then be carried forward when reading the attention-grabbing predictions and declarations of today. It's basically a more generalized version of the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect.

[1] - https://web.archive.org/

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