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US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

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Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

#182

Trump is really a disgusting human being. I'm not a US citizen but this looks an awful lot like treason -- he is actively helping an enemy of the state.

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> I only see war mongers commenting here

There's a fast way to end the war. The war can end tomorrow. All Russia needs to do is get out of Ukraine. All of it.

Easy to do, simple to achieve. No more Russians need to die.

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

#184

There’s a good reason for people to flag these posts. It seems like most folks in the comment section didn’t even read TFA. Per TFA, this impacts F-16s NOT F-35s Per TFA, the US is not actively “turning off” any piece of equipment, they are no longer providing updates (something with which we are all familiar. Per TFA, this means that the US is no longer providing active support in a country-vs-country battle of elec…

> Per TFA, this impacts F-16s NOT F-35s

Title it about F16s

> Per TFA, the US is not actively “turning off” any piece of equipment

From the article: "the Trump administration has cut off vital support for their [the F16s'] jamming capabilities"

What article are you reading?

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

#185

There’s a good reason for people to flag these posts. It seems like most folks in the comment section didn’t even read TFA. Per TFA, this impacts F-16s NOT F-35s Per TFA, the US is not actively “turning off” any piece of equipment, they are no longer providing updates (something with which we are all familiar. Per TFA, this means that the US is no longer providing active support in a country-vs-country battle of elec…

Exactly this: the US is not providing software updates anymore. The planes fly just fine. It is going to be tricky if they decide to stop hardware support - meaning spare parts.

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ukraine wasn’t a buyer. They were given those F16s. Be careful when something is given for “free”.

The Netherlands for instance, who gave Ukraine a batch of F16s _was_ a buyer. Logic still stands, US made anything is worthless if it includes a kill switch that can be toggled any time post-purchase.

Good point, but I wonder if there was something in the agreement between the US and the Netherlands when those were originally sold.

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

#187

People commenting here keep speaking as though Americans all decided to do this. Trump didn't even win the majority of votes of those who voted. And those who voted for him had only the most nebulous idea of what doing this would mean. It meant something like "Those people who never treated us with respect will get what's coming. If they don't love us they will fear us." This happens all the time. "Russia did X." "Th…

> People commenting here keep speaking as though Americans all decided to do this. Trump didn't even win the majority of votes of those who voted.

True, but if Americans do not stop it, they own it.

Nobody cares much if you meant to make an accident, you should have been more careful - especially if you run away from the scene.

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

#188

Right now every buyer of American kit is feverishly evaluating non-US alternatives. Seriously, America, this is like Brexit but 1000x. A voluntary decision, taken with gusto, to chop off arms and legs and ears and fingers and whatnot, cut off the deadwood, be light and free, a lone vessel on the ocean of prosperity, free of the burden of the stupid foreigners who are the sole reason why everything was going wrong.

"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

#189

There’s a good reason for people to flag these posts. It seems like most folks in the comment section didn’t even read TFA. Per TFA, this impacts F-16s NOT F-35s Per TFA, the US is not actively “turning off” any piece of equipment, they are no longer providing updates (something with which we are all familiar. Per TFA, this means that the US is no longer providing active support in a country-vs-country battle of elec…

The article pretty clearly explains how important the missile jamming feature is, and that Ukraine has to switch to other planes and equipment.

Re: US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s

#190

Right now every buyer of American kit is feverishly evaluating non-US alternatives. Seriously, America, this is like Brexit but 1000x. A voluntary decision, taken with gusto, to chop off arms and legs and ears and fingers and whatnot, cut off the deadwood, be light and free, a lone vessel on the ocean of prosperity, free of the burden of the stupid foreigners who are the sole reason why everything was going wrong.

The agenda that Trump advanced during campaigns was not "cut ourselves off from the rest of the world". Do his supporters really want this? What's the rationale he advances for this stance and the tarrifs?

What would a president who was beholden to Russians do once elected? I mean -- what's the point of provoking Canada, of all countries? Canada as the 51st US state would be the new most populous state and would cause a huge change in US politics. Not to mention it could only arrive through conquest. So why even propose it if not merely to cause a rift?

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