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Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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As long as you're dreaming, perhaps you should also include giving up all his equity in the company. He'd still profit handsomely off someone else running the company well with over 12% of shares.

I'm not going to go that far. He can invest in whatever he wants; if he owns a non-controlling amount of Amazon or Home Depot shares, I'm not going to stop shopping there.

Amazon isn't a great example though as Jeff “algorithmically controlling workers body” Bezos is only marginally less evil than Musk.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

#42
post #39

Sold my Tesla model 3 performance about a year ago, and it wasn’t because of politics. Tesla continuously deployed breaking changes to my car without my permission. Autopilot, parking sensors, rain sensing wipers that just became absolute garbage… every new update was an exciting journey through the features of my car that used to work and now didn’t. Couple that with depreciation of a 68,000$ car to 19,000$ in two y…

Yikes. Why are they deprecating those features?

Nobody knows why apps makers change the UI every years either…

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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As someone in the market for a Cybertruck, this doesn't look like desperation to me. These are fairly standard perks. Now a low APR _and_ free FSD, that'd be a serious incentive. That's what I'm waiting for.

I've been shopping Ford Mavericks and they have no incentives other than a 3 year lease. They are hot because they are filling a market niche that is in-demand. Incentives are priced accordingly. Low demand, high incentives. High demand, low incentives.

They also have annual sales of ~140k globally. The Y is closer to 1.2M.

Even in the US, the Y sells ~2x as many as Maverick.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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post #4

As someone in the market for a Cybertruck, this doesn't look like desperation to me. These are fairly standard perks. Now a low APR _and_ free FSD, that'd be a serious incentive. That's what I'm waiting for.

I would snap up a Model Y if it had V2X charging. I can only imagine Tesla is worried about undercutting their powerwall business. Powerwall gives you 13 kwh for $10K. A model Y is 60kwh for $30k

CT has v2x. I hope it comes to the other cars eventually.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I support cutting government waste. So do the majority of Americans, BTW. And no one with any folds on their brain believes Musk is a "Nazi".

I too support cutting government waste, provided it's done right. The problem is that currently it's being done with all the grace of a hippo in ice skates. A good manager does things methodically, not spastically. If he were advising well, we wouldn't have to keep calling important people back to work. You also don't have to believe Musk is an actual Nazi to believe he should be careful in how he presents himself. W…

We are broke. We're out of good options.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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post #43
post #3

I will buy a Tesla as soon as Elon relinquishes control over the company and resigns from its Board. Not bloody likely to happen, but a person can dream.

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How can you possibly like someone throwing around literal Nazi salutes? Are you unaware of that?

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

#49
post #39

Sold my Tesla model 3 performance about a year ago, and it wasn’t because of politics. Tesla continuously deployed breaking changes to my car without my permission. Autopilot, parking sensors, rain sensing wipers that just became absolute garbage… every new update was an exciting journey through the features of my car that used to work and now didn’t. Couple that with depreciation of a 68,000$ car to 19,000$ in two y…

Yikes. Why are they deprecating those features?

> Why are they deprecating those features?

I guess deprecation is in the eye of the beholder.

I have a model y, probably got mostly the same updates, and I have found that the features seem improved.

The exception might be FSD, for which I think v12.5 was an experiment of questionable value that quickly became a non-issue with v13. I don’t have FSD, so I’m not sure.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

#50
post #4

As someone in the market for a Cybertruck, this doesn't look like desperation to me. These are fairly standard perks. Now a low APR _and_ free FSD, that'd be a serious incentive. That's what I'm waiting for.

Serious question: do you expect to have to field questions about buying a car from Musk post-seig heil and DOGE?

> Serious question: do you expect to have to field questions about buying a car from Musk post-seig heil and DOGE?

I live in a liberal part of California.

No one has said anything to me about driving a Tesla, and I doubt anyone will.

I know a few folks who have ruled out a tesla because of Elon, but the realize that a car and the ecology around it is more than its CEO (or whatever he is).

I know many more folks who have bought a new one.

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