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Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Kagi has been one of the biggest value adds to my online life in a long time. Paying for the Kagi ultimate plans gets me access to the latest LLM models, and an incredible customizable search engine with a large focus on privacy. The Orion browser has been my favorite to use on iOS, I’m not sure if I’d use the desktop version because of its web kit base. But I’m glad to see it’s moving forward.

I keep being confused by this. People mention that Kagi has all these features but I never see them, do I have to up my subscription plan?

You need the ultimate plan to get the assistant which gives access to lots of llms

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Orion on iOS has been life changing for me.

can you expound on this "life change"?

Being able to set my default browser to Kagi was enough. I'll deal with Orion's bugs for now because I don't want to go back.

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Kagi is cool and all but... I'm in Europe. I'm busy disengaging from US based services. Any good EU alternatives?

> I'm busy disengaging from US based services. Can you explain why? From privacy and free speech perspectives aren’t US services now better? Kagi now probably has the best search privacy features in the world after recent upgrades with Privacy Pass and even a ToR endpoint.

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Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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> I'm busy disengaging from US based services. Can you explain why? From privacy and free speech perspectives aren’t US services now better? Kagi now probably has the best search privacy features in the world after recent upgrades with Privacy Pass and even a ToR endpoint.

Because the recent trade war has started a trend of "buy European' across the continent buy-european-made.eu

Before these trade war escalations the US imposed an average tariff rate of about 3.5% on EU goods, notably lower than the EU’s 5.2% on US goods, and lacked the high, sector-specific tariffs seen in the EU. While the US maintained a relatively uniform rate, 2.5% on cars and slightly higher on food and chemicals—the EU targeted certain US sectors with very steep tariffs, like 32.3% on dairy.

We should also mention VAT. The EU’s 21% VAT jacks up prices, a €100 item hitting €121 will slash demand. This provided around €1 trillion revenue for EU governments in 2024. While the US’s typical 7% sales tax keeps a $100 item at $107, hurting demand less, total about $457 billion in 2024. This gap makes US goods pricier in the EU (27.7% markup with tariffs) versus EU goods in the US (10.8% markup), acting like an extra trade wall for American exports, while the EU’s VAT refund on exports gives their firms a edge.

Notice we haven’t even mentioned defense spending yet …

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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> I'm busy disengaging from US based services. Can you explain why? From privacy and free speech perspectives aren’t US services now better? Kagi now probably has the best search privacy features in the world after recent upgrades with Privacy Pass and even a ToR endpoint.

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Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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I use Orion a bit on Mac. The blocker for me is that it doesn't support Ublock Origin. They claim that their built in ad blocking does 90% of what you need, but I really just want to be able to remove page elements at will.

This is kind of surprising. For me, uBlock Origin works perfectly on Orion (installed from the Firefox store), and the element zapper / eyedropper in uBlock Origin works as well. I haven't seen any difference between uBlock Origin on Firefox vs Orion.

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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https://leta.mullvad.net

Seems to be based on Google and Brave, both US companies.

extra salt in the wound because they pay google for the queries. at least when searching yourself you pay with data, which may or may not be less profitable for them
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