Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux • Hacker News Board

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by drdaeman » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:14 PM UTC

I wonder if it is going to be proprietary-licensed (like their macOS version) or Free Software?

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by CodeCompost » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:15 PM UTC

Kagi is cool and all but...

I'm in Europe. I'm busy disengaging from US based services.

Any good EU alternatives?

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by imbnwa » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:15 PM UTC

I've liked things about macOS Orion but some key extensions basically only work with Chromium browsers. That's not really on the Orion team, Chromium has a bunch of stuff neither WebKit nor Gecko support specifically around the file system and in-memory blob sizes

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by xandrius » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:17 PM UTC

CodeCompost wrote: post #42

Kagi is cool and all but... I'm in Europe. I'm busy disengaging from US based services. Any good EU alternatives?

https://european-alternatives.eu/category/search-engines

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by nicce » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:22 PM UTC

throwaway743950 wrote: post #40

nicce wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some bugs are pretty bad. There was one that drained my battery in 30mins. But I know it is difficult for a small team.

How long ago was that? I've been seeing consistent progress on bugginess.

This was actually just last week. I guess GitHub made that, but I could not yet reproduce it.

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by pjerem » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:30 PM UTC

CodeCompost wrote: post #42

Kagi is cool and all but... I'm in Europe. I'm busy disengaging from US based services. Any good EU alternatives?

I’m in the same boat but for Kagi it’s a little different : I don’t pay them because they are privacy friendly (or at least that’s another reason) but because the search quality is better than everything else, including Google.

However fwiw, Startpage is nice.

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by freehorse » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:36 PM UTC

CodeCompost wrote: post #42

Kagi is cool and all but... I'm in Europe. I'm busy disengaging from US based services. Any good EU alternatives?

There is no good alternative right now. Even eu-based ones use google's or bing's search indexes, essentially being a different frontend for google and bing, so imo it does not make much difference. Kagi sort of does sth similar, but much better imo, which is also why I use them.

There is a common initiative by ecosia and qwant to build their own index [0], which is hopeful though, and something to look forward to.

[0] https://blog.ecosia.org/eusp/

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by shipp02 » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:39 PM UTC

I would've thought that Windows would be the next platform to port to given its larger user base.

Maybe the decision speaks to the distribution of Kagi users across operating systems.

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by stevage » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:48 PM UTC

I use Orion a bit on Mac. The blocker for me is that it doesn't support Ublock Origin. They claim that their built in ad blocking does 90% of what you need, but I really just want to be able to remove page elements at will.

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Post by 7thpower » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:48 PM UTC

Orion was a letdown for me. I’ve tried multiple times to switch over but basic things like autofill not working consistently were dealbreakers.