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The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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Americans living abroad are not even allowed to give up citizenship to avoid paying U.S. taxes. That's wrong, along with many other facts in this article.

I think he meant that if you want to avoid paying U.S. taxes, you have to give up citizenship, which is true to my understanding.

No, you have to pay taxes for 7 years post loss of citizenship.

Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once had a conversation with a Frenchman (in France) about how he had berated some poor American girl (also in France) for not knowing that Zurich was in Switzerland. I promptly quizzed him on which states 5 American cities were in, all larger than Zurich. He failed miserably. The United States is geographically almost as large as the whole of Europe. The closest foreign border to me is Niagara Falls just over 400m…

The US state of Montana is slightly larger than Germany. I can't name more than one city there and many airlines don't even fly to the state. The US is really big!

Or, really, European nations are incredibly tiny. Fun fact: Guyana is as long as Germany.

Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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I'd like to suggest another reason for large military expenditures that have nothing to do with corruption. The US has the only two-ocean navy, and a very extensive one at that. A lot of the burden of protecting shipping lanes for members of the "global system" is covered by the States. That's really, really expensive. Of course, that means that countries that don't want to play by US rules (North Korea, Iran, Cuba)…

For the record, there are other multi-ocean navies: russia, south africa, australia, canada, and argentina among them. I think that's a pretty small factor compared to the influence of the military industrial complex. The size of the US navy dwarfs every other country considerably, even when factoring in oceanic boundaries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_warships_in_service_w... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L…

The US has about half the world's aircraft carriers. Each aircraft carrier basically needs a battle group to protect it. The approach is indicative of the US's strategy: be able to have a few aircraft carriers anywhere important in the world, ready to quickly react to a crisis without sacrificing protection elsewhere. Since no other nation with aircraft carriers has more than 2 (and most have only one), that basically guarantees significant air and naval power anywhere.

Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/us-d.html#communism

  It is not very well known however that Germany saw a much 
  more vigilant communism hunt at about the same time. While 
  in the US only about a dozen people ever went to prison 
  for being Communists, that same number runs in the 
  thousands in Germany. The communist party was forbidden by 
  the German high court, and party members who continued 
  their activities were arrested and sent to prison.
Need we forget that the Stasi of the hostile East German state were right next door?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi

  The Stasi was headquartered in East Berlin, with an 
  extensive complex in Berlin-Lichtenberg and several 
  smaller facilities throughout the city. It was widely 
  regarded as one of the most effective and repressive 
  intelligence and secret police agencies in the world. The 
  Stasi motto was "Schild und Schwert der Partei" (Shield 
  and Sword of the Party), that is the ruling Socialist 
  Unity Party of Germany (SED). Now considered a criminal 
  organisation, several Stasi officials were prosecuted for 
  their crimes after 1990.
Lest we forget, the GDR was also a vassal of the nuclear-armed Soviet Union, and the KGB was not an imaginary entity. Communism was no joke. See "The Lives of Others" if you want to see what East Germany was like when this guy grew up:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/

Incredibly, not a single mention of East Germany or the GDR in this entire document.

Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I promptly quizzed him on which states 5 American cities were in, all larger than Zurich. Who cares about states in a foreign country? In this context the size of the city or state is not of any interest.

So, in other words, if it interests you, it's fair to quiz someone else about it, but if it doesn't interest you, it's not fair to quiz you about it.

Do you want me to quiz you on the provinces of Sweden?

Oh, you don't find that interesting? Well, hardly anyone outside Sweden probably does. Pointless knowledge.

Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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I'd like to suggest another reason for large military expenditures that have nothing to do with corruption. The US has the only two-ocean navy, and a very extensive one at that. A lot of the burden of protecting shipping lanes for members of the "global system" is covered by the States. That's really, really expensive. Of course, that means that countries that don't want to play by US rules (North Korea, Iran, Cuba)…

For the record, there are other multi-ocean navies: russia, south africa, australia, canada, and argentina among them. I think that's a pretty small factor compared to the influence of the military industrial complex. The size of the US navy dwarfs every other country considerably, even when factoring in oceanic boundaries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_warships_in_service_w... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L…

The parent post doesn't mean the same thing you mean. The USN patrols every major seaway in the world; I sure don't see South Africa doing the same, nor Canada, Australia, The Russian Federation, and definitely not Argentina.

Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, in other words, if it interests you, it's fair to quiz someone else about it, but if it doesn't interest you, it's not fair to quiz you about it.

Do you want me to quiz you on the provinces of Sweden? Oh, you don't find that interesting? Well, hardly anyone outside Sweden probably does. Pointless knowledge.

Most people could name a grand total of one city in all of Sweden. Just not on people's radars the way the US is.

Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I promptly quizzed him on which states 5 American cities were in, all larger than Zurich. Who cares about states in a foreign country? In this context the size of the city or state is not of any interest.

The point is that knowing that Zurich is in Switzerland is more similar to knowing that Denver is in Colorado than it is to knowing that Denver is in the United States. Presumably the size of the city is interesting because the implicit assumption is that knowing where Zurich is important because Zurich is a big city.

My point is that it isn't similar at all, on any level.

A typical foreigner to the US probably knows where some large cities in US are without having the slightest clue about which state many of them reside in.

That is my perception of it.

Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you want me to quiz you on the provinces of Sweden? Oh, you don't find that interesting? Well, hardly anyone outside Sweden probably does. Pointless knowledge.

Most people could name a grand total of one city in all of Sweden. Just not on people's radars the way the US is.

I'm happy as long as we are not confused with Switzerland, but you missed my point.

Is the state that large US cities reside in on (foreign) peoples radars?

Re: The Differences Between Germany and the United States

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> Germany also has a diverse culture Compared to what? Compared to Madison Wisconsin, maybe, compared to all of Wisconsin, probably not, compared to Texas or CA, not a chance. Heck, South San Jose is more diverse.

It depends on whether you define diversity as being 'ethnically' diverse or culturally diverse. Obviously, Germany is ethnically less diverse than, say, California, just as much as any American city is ethnically less diverse than London. If we're talking about 'cultural' diversity the regional differences between southern, northern, eastern and western Germany can be extreme, yet maybe difficult to notice for someon…

London is more ethnically diverse than any American city?

Hmm. Los Angeles may have something to say about that.

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