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Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by patrick0d »

DANmode wrote: post #87
fumufumu wrote: post #42

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

Maybe putting sugar into your body without fiber has never happened in the history of human nature, and it's fool-hardy.

Maybe eating honey has never happened in the history of human nature, and it's fool-hardy.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by wave-function »

card_zero wrote: post #63
DidYaWipe wrote: post #55

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Also: Does the addition of milk to coffee nullify or reduce its antioxidant effects, the way it reportedly does to tea?

Does "antioxidant" there just refer to tannin, really? If you like tea strong, it's necessary to add some milk to bind to some of the tannins so it remains drinkable and doesn't try to turn your esophagus to leather.

> it's necessary

This is silly, many societies drink tons of strong black tea without polluting it with milk or sugar, and do just fine. (I come from one, and have never had any problems with my esophagus — maybe it has already turned into leather without me noticing?) It does often cause nausea on an empty stomach, though, so filling it with something first might actually be useful.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by potatoman22 »

globular-toast wrote: post #81
rich_sasha wrote: post #74

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Is that right? You make me concerned. Could you suggest a source please? Thank you.

Coffee does contain oils that will "increase cholesterol" (meaning increase LDL/bad cholesterol specifically). Filters reduce the oil significantly but unfiltered methods like cafetière and espresso (which is the basis of cappuccino etc) let it all through. It's something to think about if your drinking many unfiltered coffees a day. It is possible to add a filter to espresso if you brew it yourself.

For those like me: Cafetière means "French press."

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by potatoman22 »

It's really deceptive how the title of this post implies causality despite the study not stating a causal link exists.

"Coffee reduces risk of T2DM" is much different than the author's conclusion: "Adding sugar or artificial sweetener significantly attenuates the magnitude of the inverse association between higher coffee consumption and T2D risk, whereas the use of cream do not alter the inverse association." The key word there is "association."

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

mac-mc wrote: post #37
lawgimenez wrote: post #13

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I’m curious, we need more studies on meth.

I want at least studies about ADHD meds and all the people who took them long term. It will probably end up similar to nicotine.

I think most of the risk from nicotine consumption is inhaling smoke, not the nicotine itself.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by euroderf »

fumufumu wrote: post #42

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

Coffee and sugar are like oil and water: you can try all you want to mix them but they will never form a whole.

No matter how long you stir it... you take a sip, and there's a coffee flavor over here and a sugar flavor over there.

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Post by alpaca128 »

epicureanideal wrote: post #44
xethos wrote: post #33

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That's semi-reasonable in America, but less so in any country with single-payer health care. Like smoking, there are serious effects later in life that cost money to treat; this makes for a compelling case for a sin tax IMO, like we have for tobacco and liquor here in Canada.

So if we vote for a single payer healthcare system, we get a back door for government tyranny over every little aspect of our lives that they decide is bad for us, including as the science shifts? Don’t eat eggs or you lose your coverage, no wait, eat 3 eggs a week or you lose your coverage, no wait.. Sounds like a bad deal, and most Americans will take freedom over free health care if that’s the cost.

This not only doesn’t happen, but those "tyrannical" systems also usually have lower minimum age requirements for alcohol consumption than the US, and healthcare is cheaper while people are healthier on average.

It is sad how so many people in the US were persuaded to be so afraid of supposed "communism" that they are actively voting against their interests.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by [deleted] »

sgt wrote: post #50
alliao wrote: post #14

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my go to drink for pancreatic terrorism as of late is Dunkin Donut's Caramel Creme Frozen Coffee - Large at 172g of sugar per serving

How much is a donut? I think Elon Musk says he eats quite a few through the day. Yet he's healthy as an old race horse.

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Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by alpaca128 »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #58
genewitch wrote: post #40

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I made a decision about 13 or 14 years ago to not drink my calories and it took another 11 years to actually cease all liquid calories - booze has a lot. I do put a splash of heavy cream in my coffee, otherwise I wouldn't drink coffee at all, as unsweet iced tea is a more palatable flavor to me. But I don't like hot tea or cold coffee. I understand cream has calories, but I have to take a small bit of fat to allow ce…

Try better coffee. Seriously. Get LIGHT-roast beans, grind them yourself, and get a Chemex. Dark-roasted coffee is shitty beans that are burned to cover up their poor quality: https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-...

Some people simply do not like the flavor of pure coffee, no matter how much others enjoy it.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by card_zero »

wave-function wrote: post #92
card_zero wrote: post #63

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Does "antioxidant" there just refer to tannin, really? If you like tea strong, it's necessary to add some milk to bind to some of the tannins so it remains drinkable and doesn't try to turn your esophagus to leather.

> it's necessary This is silly, many societies drink tons of strong black tea without polluting it with milk or sugar, and do just fine. (I come from one, and have never had any problems with my esophagus — maybe it has already turned into leather without me noticing?) It does often cause nausea on an empty stomach, though, so filling it with something first might actually be useful.

Hi Kazakhstan! Yeah, I guess one can adapt, but I think there's such a thing as excessive antioxidants, is all I'm saying. Neutralizing some percentage to taste isn't going to stop you getting the healthsome goodness of tea, along with its fluoride for cavity protection (and possible lead or cadmium content, just to even things out).
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