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Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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I kind of wonder if this is just caffeine and higher metabolism, weight loss. Like caffeine might work. but meth might work too.

I mean if you go in between the two you find folks happily enjoying the appetite suppressing side effects of low dose stimulants and some antidepressants.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#22
post #14

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my go to drink for pancreatic terrorism as of late is Dunkin Donut's Caramel Creme Frozen Coffee - Large at 172g of sugar per serving

I can't believe it's even legal to sell those. That seems simply insane.

Your body, your choice.

At least with cigarettes there was a public nuisance argument because of the smell and also the secondhand effect. I dont find general public health a compelling argument for restricting sugar.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#23

It would be interesting to analyze a dataset of commercially sold prepared "coffee" drinks from vendors like Starbucks to see how many are actually coffee, versus coffee-flavored soft drinks, and how this changed over the last few decades.

I think at this point this has basically become an old man yells at cloud take. Folks ordering at Starbucks know exactly what they're getting down to the number of pumps. You've always been able to get any form of unadulterated coffee hot or cold. All the drinks are coffee, you can find the worker manual for Starbucks floating around online and it has all the drink recipes. And it's because coffee is crazy cheap, it would be more effort to fake it. Most of their desert drinks use espresso pulls as the base coffee flavor.

It's hard to work around the fact that coffee, dairy, and sugar taste really good together. Coffee really wants to be a dessert, it's why it's in so many of them. Starbucks just rolled with that and people love it.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#24
post #6

I’ve always wondered if these coffee benefits apply to consumption of instant coffee also which is dried and processed, or just brewed coffee which is not processed post-brewing.

I suspect that any measurable effects would be some spurious correlation derived from the difference between the type of person who would have instant vs espresso machine coffee (eg socioeconomic)

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#25
post #2

Somewhat related post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42625193 It seems like having sugary drinks is not just bad for you, but like really bad for you.

40g of sugar in one can of soda is pancreatic terrorism. I always wonder why I see “quit smoking” PSAs on TV, but not for sugar bombs like soda or even Starbucks fraps.

Big sugar

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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I can't believe it's even legal to sell those. That seems simply insane.

Your body, your choice. At least with cigarettes there was a public nuisance argument because of the smell and also the secondhand effect. I dont find general public health a compelling argument for restricting sugar.

You don't need to restrict it. Just educate people about its effect. That's the least you can do

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't believe it's even legal to sell those. That seems simply insane.

Your body, your choice. At least with cigarettes there was a public nuisance argument because of the smell and also the secondhand effect. I dont find general public health a compelling argument for restricting sugar.

I'm with you here, those white organic powders should have no restrictions whatsoever.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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How do the long term low dose adderall and Ritalin people do?

Absolutely fine if used for ADHD, but it’s not the same question because the effects on people without ADHD are different.

that seems unlikely. I was looking into it the other day out of curiosity because of ADHD being . The effects of the same dosage on someone without ADHD is pretty much the same as with, it makes people feel more focussed.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#30
post #5

Given that this is an association study, I like to interpret it as if you drink coffee and you often add sweetener, you may be more likely to develop type w diabetes than others who drink coffee and don't add sweetener. Not adding sweetener because it's associated with type 2 diabetes is probably less protective than being the type of person who naturally didn't add sweeteners. Sugar in my soda, cream in my coffee th…

Except that the change in the impact also happened with artificial sweetener.

yes, thus their point. It's probably not the sweetener or sugar in the coffee, it's that folks who add sweetener are also more likely to have a lifestyle that gives them type 2.
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