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If there is a "war" between the United States and Canada it's going to be extremely short. There would not be a need to conscript anybody for it. The United States would simply roll tanks and troops across the border, making it to Ottawa in fairly short order. Canada would then surrender, and the Stars and Stripes would be raised across all the provinces and territories. From there, Canada could consider itself offic…
If there is a "war" between the United States and Canada it's going to be extremely short. There would not be a need to conscript anybody for it. The United States would simply roll tanks and troops across the border, making it to Ottawa in fairly short order. Canada would then surrender, and the Stars and Stripes would be raised across all the provinces and territories. From there, Canada could consider itself offic…
Short until Chinese and Russian drones arrive and irregular forces based in the mountains and forests begin reigning death down on American infrastructure and cities.
If there is a "war" between the United States and Canada it's going to be extremely short. There would not be a need to conscript anybody for it. The United States would simply roll tanks and troops across the border, making it to Ottawa in fairly short order. Canada would then surrender, and the Stars and Stripes would be raised across all the provinces and territories. From there, Canada could consider itself offic…
Please identify the storage facilities in the US where this equipment would be mobilized from. To note, state national guards report up to governors. The Sierra Army Depot is located in California. It's a hike from the Lima, Ohio tank production facility to Ottawa (~600 miles). Lots can happen on the way. It isn't the US vs Canada. It is the part of the US willing to wage war against everyone else.
If there is a "war" between the United States and Canada it's going to be extremely short. There would not be a need to conscript anybody for it. The United States would simply roll tanks and troops across the border, making it to Ottawa in fairly short order. Canada would then surrender, and the Stars and Stripes would be raised across all the provinces and territories. From there, Canada could consider itself offic…
You must be American, this scenario is outself the realm of possibility.
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Please identify the storage facilities in the US where this equipment would be mobilized from. To note, state national guards report up to governors. The Sierra Army Depot is located in California. It's a hike from the Lima, Ohio tank production facility to Ottawa (~600 miles). Lots can happen on the way. It isn't the US vs Canada. It is the part of the US willing to wage war against everyone else.
They sent troops to the southern border during Trumps first term? North is just the other direction. Mobilization takes time but they could do it.
Think what happened to troops returning from Vietnam, not looked upon kindly. Now think of that happening during the conflict. You will, rightfully so, be considered the enemy for participating in this. Certainly, some must touch the stove to know it is hot, I admit this.
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You must be American, this scenario is outself the realm of possibility.
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If I put on my realpolitik hat though, it makes sense why Trump & friends want Canada, same reason they want Greenland: access to the Arctic. Look at a world map and how Canada and Greenland are placed relative to the US. Trump is a real estate guy and lots of land is always the best thing to have.
For Greenland, the United States has no need to flex its military muscle if they want to take it over. The Greenlanders want to be free from Denmark and this is a great opportunity for them to achieve that.
Possible timeline of events:
* Greenland leaves the Danish Realm
* Greenland becomes sovereign nation
* Greenland enters Compact of Free Association with the United States (similar to Kiribati and Micronesia) - boom, best of all worlds for the USA. Juicy real estate, military boost, a local indigenous population that will be able to do nil about it.
* With Greenland secure, the United States finds a pretext for NATO withdrawal.
* The United States either pressures Canada into joining the US or invades outright. European partners do not come to Canada's defence and NATO is officially over. Maybe a European version of it rises in the aftermath.
From there, hard to say what will happen. I would be worried if I was an Icelander.
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They sent troops to the southern border during Trumps first term? North is just the other direction. Mobilization takes time but they could do it.
Would you go to fight Canada if you thought you might not have a home to come back to? This is my point: less than half of Americans voted for this. There are, as of this comment, roughly 1.3 million active duty troops and 762,000 reserve troops. They won't be welcome in Canada, and they certainly aren't going to be welcome here. Think what happened to troops returning from Vietnam, not looked upon kindly. Now think…
I think you're making a couple of shaky assumptions. You're assuming civil society will stand up to Trump. This seems increasingly unlikely to happen.
Also, in the military, there are really serious consequences if you don't do what you're told. It's not the same world as the civilian world. So if an enlisted soldier gets told to suit up for a mission, they'll do it.
Think of the Ukraine war. Many of the Russian soldiers thought they were on an exercise that day, they didn't realize it was a for-real invasion until they got the order.
Lastly, invoking that less than half of Americans voted for this just doesn't mean very much. Trump could have been kept out of office if enough people had gone and voted for Kamala Harris...but they didn't. The people who voted for Trump, hey, say what you like about them, but at least they went to the polls.
This mess is 100% the karma of all Americans.
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Would you go to fight Canada if you thought you might not have a home to come back to? This is my point: less than half of Americans voted for this. There are, as of this comment, roughly 1.3 million active duty troops and 762,000 reserve troops. They won't be welcome in Canada, and they certainly aren't going to be welcome here. Think what happened to troops returning from Vietnam, not looked upon kindly. Now think…
Where is "here?" I think you're making a couple of shaky assumptions. You're assuming civil society will stand up to Trump. This seems increasingly unlikely to happen. Also, in the military, there are really serious consequences if you don't do what you're told. It's not the same world as the civilian world. So if an enlisted soldier gets told to suit up for a mission, they'll do it. Think of the Ukraine war. Many of…
I strongly disagree. I did not vote for this shit show, nor did many others, and I have no control over those who did.
> The people who voted for Trump, hey, say what you like about them, but at least they went to the polls.
Voting to burn the place down is not a participation trophy.
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My analysis should not be interpreted as an endorsement of the idea. I think the US annexing Canada is pretty high on the list of dumb things to do. Total waste of time and energy for very nebulously defined benefits. If I put on my realpolitik hat though, it makes sense why Trump & friends want Canada, same reason they want Greenland: access to the Arctic. Look at a world map and how Canada and Greenland are placed…
Henceforth you're subject to Lawsuits in both countries, Arrests in both countries by Any or All Agencies, but it also allow you to have a card under your sleeve, that you can surrender any one of them and stay legally in one anytime.
Also, if the two countries have extradition treaties you're subject to availability by one or both of the countries, if they require you on investigation.
In any of the case above happening sadly you can't request Asylum to the other as you're already their citizen. So, you're putting your self to be able to be extracted from foreign soil with or without permission in such a situation, I imagine.
As during war, there are a lot of things that are unstable, you might as well get away with it, if you choose to hide partial truth, based on the condition you're in. Also, I imagine then any paperwork of opposite country would not be valid in one country, unless they want to. Because war is deception, and your citizenship is stability on paper.