Age Verification Laws: A Backdoor to Surveillance
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#2The people behind these "save the children" age verification bills are funded by verification companies looking for contracts. Russell Vought, Mr.Project 2025 himself, is also a massive proponent of using porn as an excuse for more surveillance.
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#3age verification should be backed into the browser and not into websites.
parents should be able to access a (password protected) setting in any browser that can exclude some types of websites (like porn).
governments should be free to go after any website not respecting that setting.
but forcing the age-verification onto websites is just moronic.
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#4While I don't support age verification (I don't think that would solve anything) two of the targeted product categories, skincare and diet foods/supplements, are some of the heaviest spending ad categories I see nowadays, and feel very huckster-y as well.
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#5age verification should be backed into the browser and not into websites. parents should be able to access a (password protected) setting in any browser that can exclude some types of websites (like porn). governments should be free to go after any website not respecting that setting. but forcing the age-verification onto websites is just moronic.
> age verification should be backed into the browser
You want a mandated block of government code in every browser?
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#6age verification should be backed into the browser and not into websites. parents should be able to access a (password protected) setting in any browser that can exclude some types of websites (like porn). governments should be free to go after any website not respecting that setting. but forcing the age-verification onto websites is just moronic.
it would be less terrible if there were some simple, Apple ID-like way to simply get redirected to a govt website, put in your driver's license, and the website only gets a token back that says "yes over age/no underage".
The data already exists, it's what bars use to scan IDs with handheld readers IIRC.
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#7age verification should be backed into the browser and not into websites. parents should be able to access a (password protected) setting in any browser that can exclude some types of websites (like porn). governments should be free to go after any website not respecting that setting. but forcing the age-verification onto websites is just moronic.
> age verification should be backed into the browser You want a mandated block of government code in every browser?
why government code?
having a checkbox that corresponds to info passed with the HTTP requests is hardly something that requires a library or more than a few lines of code
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#8age verification should be backed into the browser and not into websites. parents should be able to access a (password protected) setting in any browser that can exclude some types of websites (like porn). governments should be free to go after any website not respecting that setting. but forcing the age-verification onto websites is just moronic.
And then kinds just learn how to download and run an open-source browser produced outside of the country that does not implement the setting on the client side.
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#9This should be held up as a visceral demonstration of how the "slippery slope" isn't inherently a fallacy, as many oft like to claim: it is merely a form of argument that is easy enough to get wrong--leading to a fallacy when the cause is disconnected--that people have become overly-wary of it, reacting to the premise of the conclusion without even bothering to analyze how steep the slope might be before tuning the idea out :(.
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#10age verification should be backed into the browser and not into websites. parents should be able to access a (password protected) setting in any browser that can exclude some types of websites (like porn). governments should be free to go after any website not respecting that setting. but forcing the age-verification onto websites is just moronic.
it would be less terrible if there were some simple, Apple ID-like way to simply get redirected to a govt website, put in your driver's license, and the website only gets a token back that says "yes over age/no underage". The data already exists, it's what bars use to scan IDs with handheld readers IIRC.
i wasn't really talking about about any "verification". just a way for parents to disable what they want their kid to be able to browse. if parents don't care to change the setting, their kids would be free to browse anything.