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Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by c03 »

zoul wrote: post #8

Not every european company embodies european values. As an example, Signal is listed as a US company people might want a european replacement for – and yet Signal represents european values much better than many of the alternatives.

This is a great point where nationality does not reflect political values. Many Americans exist that do not carry the opinion of their government, as do many Russians.

If a global set of "Don't be an asshole" values could be defined, put into words, shared and progressed, it would have much greater value to a consumer and the world than merely going back to nationalism and protectionism.

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

zoul wrote: post #8

Not every european company embodies european values. As an example, Signal is listed as a US company people might want a european replacement for – and yet Signal represents european values much better than many of the alternatives.

>Not every european company embodies european values.

What even are "European values"? Is there such thing? Every EU country I know has varying values to the other members, that's why we have separate borders, languages, religions, cultures and laws with autonomy over them.

The EU is not one-nation one-culture like the US, but an org that doesn't impose any kind of universal values across the different diverse members except some laws that ease trade, labor movement and cooperation and that's it, but every country, and even every citizen has wildly different things they value based on culture, economy, history, social class and upbringing.

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by amarcheschi »

zoul wrote: post #8

Not every european company embodies european values. As an example, Signal is listed as a US company people might want a european replacement for – and yet Signal represents european values much better than many of the alternatives.

While I do agree with what you say, I feel the og post is more in the spirit of "buy local, support your local x/y/z" rather than just sharing values. At least, this is how I see it, even if the title says support European values, which is surely much more inspiring

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by timeon »

zoul wrote: post #8

Not every european company embodies european values. As an example, Signal is listed as a US company people might want a european replacement for – and yet Signal represents european values much better than many of the alternatives.

It should not be just about values but also security. Well I use Signal but what if their servers are sized or blocked for EU users? (This is also valid for many companies listed in the page that are hosted on US clouds).

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by lynx97 »

zoul wrote: post #8

Not every european company embodies european values. As an example, Signal is listed as a US company people might want a european replacement for – and yet Signal represents european values much better than many of the alternatives.

What are European values, actually? I don't think there is a lot that all member state citizens actually share, except for a lot of wishful thinking.
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