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Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by Marsymars »

pimlottc wrote: post #98
eknkc wrote: post #49

I owned multiple iPads and never found a compelling use case for them. I don't know why I keep buying them but they have been great computers for my parents so it's not like I buy to shelf them. Are there any use cases (apart from drawing maybe. I can't draw a stick figure if my life depended on it so that's not for me) for developers?

My iPad is almost exclusively for watching movies on planes. And it's very handy for that.

The form factor (in particular the aspect ratio) is unfortunately not ideal for that.

The original Surface RT might have had the best form factor I've used for plane movies - 16:9 screen with built-in kickstand. 16:9 is sub-par for basically everything other than tv/movies though.

Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by Marsymars »

smith7018 wrote: post #90
asow92 wrote: post #52

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As someone struggling to find the limits of his M2 iPad air, you don't.

Hopefully 7 years from now you'll still be able to use it with modern apps, websites, and video content. IMO, The benefits of these chips are in longevity rather than pushing them to the limit today.

This is the pretty obvious answer. I'm looking at replacing my gen-3 iPad Air from 2019 because it's feeling pretty pokey now. (And my wife's gen-1 iPad Air from 2013 is entirely unusable.)

Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by ProfessorLayton »

scarface_74 wrote: post #230
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #229

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All the products except maybe the 3G/3GS are clearly differentiated. What is new is having several iPads that are nearly indistinguishable from each other without Apple's comparison tool.

How can you tell the difference between the 3G and 3GS except for speed? Do you know off the top of your head the difference between the MacBook and MacBook Pro at the time? Would you have known then? Jobs passed the day the iPhone 4S was released and they were selling the 3GS, 4 and 4S. I’m sure he had something to do with the lineup. The 4 and the 4S were indistinguishable from the outside and the 4S and was only f…

The MacBook and MacBook Pro used to be immediately distinguishable from each other because one was made of plastic, and the other was aluminum. I'm not suggesting it should've remained that way, but it was clear to the consumer which one was which. The Air/Pro laptop lineup is still rather distinct to this day.

I won't defend how fragmented the iPhone lineup has gotten around the 3GS/4/4S, but the iPad is much worse, because again it's not immediately obvious which one is better without a comparison tool.

Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by scarface_74 »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #244
scarface_74 wrote: post #230

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How can you tell the difference between the 3G and 3GS except for speed? Do you know off the top of your head the difference between the MacBook and MacBook Pro at the time? Would you have known then? Jobs passed the day the iPhone 4S was released and they were selling the 3GS, 4 and 4S. I’m sure he had something to do with the lineup. The 4 and the 4S were indistinguishable from the outside and the 4S and was only f…

The MacBook and MacBook Pro used to be immediately distinguishable from each other because one was made of plastic, and the other was aluminum. I'm not suggesting it should've remained that way, but it was clear to the consumer which one was which. The Air/Pro laptop lineup is still rather distinct to this day. I won't defend how fragmented the iPhone lineup has gotten around the 3GS/4/4S, but the iPad is much worse,…

And the iPad Pro and iPad Air is distinguishable by TouchID vs FaceID and a better screen and smaller bezels. By looks, how are you suppose to tell the difference between two all screen devices?

Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by ProfessorLayton »

scarface_74 wrote: post #245
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The MacBook and MacBook Pro used to be immediately distinguishable from each other because one was made of plastic, and the other was aluminum. I'm not suggesting it should've remained that way, but it was clear to the consumer which one was which. The Air/Pro laptop lineup is still rather distinct to this day. I won't defend how fragmented the iPhone lineup has gotten around the 3GS/4/4S, but the iPad is much worse,…

And the iPad Pro and iPad Air is distinguishable by TouchID vs FaceID and a better screen and smaller bezels. By looks, how are you suppose to tell the difference between two all screen devices?

The iPad Pro vs iPad Air seem distinguishable from each other, yes, but there's the iPad (A16) and mini muddying the lineup.

For example, the mini costs more than A16 iPad yet lacks a landscape center stage camera — but also has features the even more expensive Air doesn't, like true tone flash on the 12MP camera.

The iPad lineup is a mess, and spending more money can lead to getting less features. The iPhone lineup is pretty messy too, but the iPad situation is particularly terrible, and sales peaked years ago.

Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by scarface_74 »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #246
scarface_74 wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the iPad Pro and iPad Air is distinguishable by TouchID vs FaceID and a better screen and smaller bezels. By looks, how are you suppose to tell the difference between two all screen devices?

The iPad Pro vs iPad Air seem distinguishable from each other, yes, but there's the iPad (A16) and mini muddying the lineup. For example, the mini costs more than A16 iPad yet lacks a landscape center stage camera — but also has features the even more expensive Air doesn't, like true tone flash on the 12MP camera. The iPad lineup is a mess, and spending more money can lead to getting less features . The iPhone lineup…

You can look at the Mini and tell whether you want a smaller iPad. Miniaturization has come at a premium forever.

And would you propose that Apple doesn’t offer a cheap iPad for bulk purchases and kids? A lot of computing devices are the same externally and distinguished by slower processors and less internal features.

Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by edude03 »

couchdb_ouchdb wrote: post #173
steveBK123 wrote: post #164

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Give me a MB with LTE and I can finally stop buying&regretting iPads. Maybe Apple moving into the modem space will get us there but it does feel like some sort of purposeful market segmentation

Just tether to your phone

I want apple's version of connected standby - I want to open my laptop and all my notifications, emails, chats, photos whatever to have already been downloaded while the laptop was idle in my bag.

Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by ProfessorLayton »

scarface_74 wrote: post #247
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPad Pro vs iPad Air seem distinguishable from each other, yes, but there's the iPad (A16) and mini muddying the lineup. For example, the mini costs more than A16 iPad yet lacks a landscape center stage camera — but also has features the even more expensive Air doesn't, like true tone flash on the 12MP camera. The iPad lineup is a mess, and spending more money can lead to getting less features . The iPhone lineup…

You can look at the Mini and tell whether you want a smaller iPad. Miniaturization has come at a premium forever. And would you propose that Apple doesn’t offer a cheap iPad for bulk purchases and kids? A lot of computing devices are the same externally and distinguished by slower processors and less internal features.

I would propose a lineup where spending more money won't result in less features.

Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by rkhassen9 »

criddell wrote: post #88
moolcool wrote: post #46

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I don't really see the value proposition for the iPad Pro. It's got powerful hardware, but I can't imagine myself doing any heavy work on a tablet.

People write comments like this often and I'm always wondering if they are just expressing that the device isn't for them or they don't think the device is for anybody. There are so many devices out there that you can probably find the perfect thing for you. For some of us, the iPad Pro is a great choice.

@cridell - I think people write comments like this because, like me, they are trying to envision using the device as a replacement for the laptop...or as an additional augment and come up short. I know I do.

And for all that hardware it is disappointing that there are so many things it cannot do that you can do on MacOS and its really hard to envision what you can do.

My last ipad which admittedly was a v1 gathered dust. I really want a pro for whiteboarding...but gosh, its a lot to spend on a whiteboard....someone help me justify it as a PM.

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