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Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by Marsymars »

cafard wrote: post #104
spudlyo wrote: post #6

You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

And then when you stop at a gas station, the pump plays ads at you.

If all the gas stations around me started doing that, it would single-handedly get me to convert to an EV.

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Post by inahga »

I brutally ripped the cellular modem out of my Jeep and have not had this problem since then.

See https://sandsprite.com/blogs/index.php?uid=7&pid=462&year=20....

It has the drawback of breaking the GPS and compass. Also I imagine any recalls that are fixed via over-the-air updates won't apply. Hopefully that never happens, because I don't want to have to try to explain to the dealer that I need them to apply the update locally.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by Marsymars »

exe34 wrote: post #170
Marsymars wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d consider a socially positive action to render those screens inoperable.

as a foreigner who didn't speak the local language, I didn't think vandalism was a good idea.

Yes, ideally they could be disabled by some enterprising local youths who are too young to face consequences.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by xboxnolifes »

gruez wrote: post #94
spicybright wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People aren't going to stop using cars because of ads, they're just going to put up with almost anything because they have to in order to survive. The car industry is probably one of the most stable economic pillars the US has.

>The car industry is probably one of the most stable economic pillars the US has. You mean the industry that famously went bankrupt in 2008 and had to be bailed out? Looking at the list of sectors[1], there are plenty of sectors that I think are more stable: Consumer staples, utilities, and healthcare. [1] https://www.sectorspdrs.com/sectortracker

Car industry is rock solid, like the housing market.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by mitthrowaway2 »

spudlyo wrote: post #6

You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

Are there any kind souls on HN with the financial resources to patent these sorts of "features" before any of these other companies do, keep anyone else from using them, and thereby spare the rest of us from 20 years of ads and tracking?

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Post by outer_web »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #24
spudlyo wrote: post #6

You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

> you can't buy a "dumb TV" They are sold as monitors and digital signage displays and cost a lot more than a consumer TV.

Aren't the viewing angles on monitors way smaller?

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Post by eszed »

psunavy03 wrote: post #150
ericmay wrote: post #31

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Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

At some point I really don't get how people can't just accept that historically, the US is a car-centric suburban-centric culture, and that's just who we largely are. If you want to do things like improve the environment, you can either scream and stamp your feet about it or you can meet people where they are and devise solutions that work in a car-centric culture. It just is what it is, like Brits drinking tea, Scan…

Apart from the points made by sibling posters, markets reveal preferences. The eye-watering price of urban land suggests that many, many more people would prefer to live in cities than currently do.

(Full disclosure: I am one of them. Reluctantly living in a suburb because kids; will move back to the City as soon as they get their thumb out and build enough housing to make it more affordable.)

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by citadel_melon »

psunavy03 wrote: post #150
ericmay wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

At some point I really don't get how people can't just accept that historically, the US is a car-centric suburban-centric culture, and that's just who we largely are. If you want to do things like improve the environment, you can either scream and stamp your feet about it or you can meet people where they are and devise solutions that work in a car-centric culture. It just is what it is, like Brits drinking tea, Scan…

Change is possible and change always feels difficult before it happens, but feels inevitable when looking back. Change would be harder in places like Texas, sure, but East coast cities and the Midwest have so many opportunities to continue to develop more and more public transportation options.

Anyone who has had the privilege to live in a city where walking is easier than driving knows how much more freeing not having a car is than having one.

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