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Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Reason #999 for preferring home office. Soon long commutes will mean even more exposure to ads. It was already the case with billboards anyway. Now billboards are being forced inside your car.

If there's one thing that might save us here, it's that ads within the vehicle, delivered via the entertainment system unexpectedly, are a potential safety hazard.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

#92
post #14

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Right!? There is also a popup ad on that very site. Here is a tip that I just recently learned that has improved my browsing experience with uBlock Origin. In the settings menu under "Filter Lists" there sections under the heading of "Cookie notices" and "Annoyances" that are not enabled by default. Blocking cookie popups has been wonderful, and I can only imagine what kind of annoyances are now being blocked for me.

Does blocking the cookie popup allow all cookies? Seems like that would be worse in my opinion.

They need an explicit consent for those cookies, that's why they are asking in the first place. You can not give consent if you never click the Allow button.

TLDR: Blocking cookie popup = not allowing cookies.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

#93
post #16

Absurd that cars are now seen as an advertising platform by car makers. A car's stereo or display system randomly blasting ads at you (the driver) should be treated for what it really is - intentionally distracting the driver when the vehicle is in operation. That shit should be illegal. It's dumb at best, and incredibly dangerous at worst.

Well, AM and FM radio are plagued with ads, always were and always will be. As far as I can see this is just a replacement for the fact that nobody listens to radio in their car any more. There is an entire older generation that is used to ads being blasted in their cars. The visual assault is new though.

Is that the same? In my vehicles if an ad starts playing I can push a button and be listening to another station or I can listen to a CD or MP3. Does it work that way when ads pop up in these distracted-driver-tainment systems?

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

#94
post #31

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Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

People aren't going to stop using cars because of ads, they're just going to put up with almost anything because they have to in order to survive. The car industry is probably one of the most stable economic pillars the US has.

>The car industry is probably one of the most stable economic pillars the US has.

You mean the industry that famously went bankrupt in 2008 and had to be bailed out? Looking at the list of sectors[1], there are plenty of sectors that I think are more stable: Consumer staples, utilities, and healthcare.

[1] https://www.sectorspdrs.com/sectortracker

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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post #31

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Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

People aren't going to stop using cars because of ads, they're just going to put up with almost anything because they have to in order to survive. The car industry is probably one of the most stable economic pillars the US has.

"The car industry is probably one of the most stable economic pillars the US has."

I disagree, https://www.lendingtree.com/auto/debt-statistics/

"The average car payment for new vehicles was $737 per month in the third quarter of 2024, up 0.7% from Q3 2023

Auto loan delinquency rates are up compared to last year. 4.6% of outstanding auto debt was at least 90 days late in Q3 2024, according to the New York Fed, up 17.4% from Q3 2023. Meanwhile, the percentage of auto loans that fell to 30 days past due was 8.1% in the third quarter of this year, up 9.9% from 7.4% in the third quarter of last year."

I'm shocked that a somewhat predeatory lending company has great statistics about this - the whole article is interesting.

As for manufacturing, I also disagree -- due to current affairs w/ Trump and tariffs : https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-...

Oh yeah, something something they all took bailouts in 2008 and Ford was the only one that could pay the loans back while GM killed off several brands e.g. Oldsmobile and Pontiac.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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> you can't buy a "dumb TV" They are sold as monitors and digital signage displays and cost a lot more than a consumer TV.

The largest "monitor" I can see on Newegg right now is 48" diagonal: https://www.newegg.ca/lg-48gq900-b-48-uhd-120-hz-refresh-rat... And that's an outlier— most are 27-36", with 32" being the overwhelming sweet spot. In contrast, my TV is 77" diagonal, and most people would consider 55" to be about the minimum size for a new TV at this point, outside of special applications such as the bedroom/kitchen/etc. I don't kn…

I've used projectors for the past 15-odd years. Modern ones are very, very good in that they're portable, can run on batteries, don't need to be plugged directly into your laptop etc. The trade-off is that we don't really watch anything until the evening. The only ads we see are the ones from streaming services.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

Or you know...we could just not put ads in cars.

People get so weird about easily solvable problems, like the developer who gets tasked to make the button red and instead writes an entire theme engine abstraction even though there's exactly one user.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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> you can't buy a "dumb TV" They are sold as monitors and digital signage displays and cost a lot more than a consumer TV.

The largest "monitor" I can see on Newegg right now is 48" diagonal: https://www.newegg.ca/lg-48gq900-b-48-uhd-120-hz-refresh-rat... And that's an outlier— most are 27-36", with 32" being the overwhelming sweet spot. In contrast, my TV is 77" diagonal, and most people would consider 55" to be about the minimum size for a new TV at this point, outside of special applications such as the bedroom/kitchen/etc. I don't kn…

I have a hard time understanding why anyone would buy a physical tv that big. I decided to get a projector. Huge surface area. Goes away/out of my sight for the 98% of the time I'm not using/watching it.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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post #6

You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

> you can't buy a "dumb TV" They are sold as monitors and digital signage displays and cost a lot more than a consumer TV.

I have a Sceptre from Walmart. No internet connection. I run all services from an Apple TV. You can definitely buy a dumb TV.
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