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Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by exe34 »

kccqzy wrote: post #39
ericmay wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

That has little to do with advertising though. When you drive, you still see billboards with advertising. When you take public transit, the buses and the trains can have ads inside and outside.

I took the bus from the airport into Istanbul, and it had a horribly bright screen in front of every seat, with flashing adverts and constantly moving - after a flight, I was already feeling nauseous. I managed to cover it with a jacket and ignore the ones further away, but it was a very unpleasant experience.

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Post by the_third_wave »

EGreg wrote: post #7

As I was reading this story, a pop-up advert appeared. They’re everywhere, man! Isn’t it time to have an alternative to capitalism? UBI and cooperative gift economies (science, open source etc.)

No, it is not time to try to revive the desiccated corpse of socialism once again for the I-do-not-know-how-manyeth-time. Pick up some history books, real ones that is, not Howard Zinn and read where that path takes you. Redistribution does not work when there isn't anyone left to pluck which tends to be the outcome of that pipe dream.

Capitalism, warts and all is still the best way to lift people out of poverty. You may not like the fact that some people have way more than others (and objectively speaking way more than they need) but the people who saw and see their income lift above the poverty line would not like to see it go down again once the next "people's party" gets to power.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by iAMkenough »

ypeterholmes wrote: post #2

Advertising has gotten out of control. What's bizarre to me is that the people violating us are literally the ones who want something from us. Is there no way to boycott anyone advertising in our car? AND the car itself of course.

> Is there no way to boycott anyone advertising in our car? AND the car itself of course.

The obvious boycott would be to sell the car and never buy a Jeep again. Until the next car you buy is also updated to include ads and quietly sell tracking data they've collected about your family, so then you sell that car and never buy from that manufacturer again either.

Then before you know it, you end up buying an American-made luxury sedan to take the kids to soccer because you've convinced yourself that buying a premium ad-free car with the optional monthly subscription for the seat warmers is worth the investment and all the "affordable" options are either ad-supported American-built cars or artificially overpriced due to trade wars.

They'll backtrack if they lose enough money.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by rikafurude21 »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #61
rikafurude21 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every TV is essentially a dumb TV until you connect it to the internet. I bought a cheap TV and only use the remote to turn it on and have it connected via HDMI.

Unless it complains at you to connect it to wifi when you turn it on.

I've seen higher end Samsung TVs do this, or probably most Android TVs I'd assume.

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Post by worble »

thesuitonym wrote: post #40
spudlyo wrote: post #14

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Right!? There is also a popup ad on that very site. Here is a tip that I just recently learned that has improved my browsing experience with uBlock Origin. In the settings menu under "Filter Lists" there sections under the heading of "Cookie notices" and "Annoyances" that are not enabled by default. Blocking cookie popups has been wonderful, and I can only imagine what kind of annoyances are now being blocked for me.

Does blocking the cookie popup allow all cookies? Seems like that would be worse in my opinion.

Under GDPR, you must opt-in. So blocking the popup is the same as no consent, if you're in the EU.

I don't trust random sites on the internet to follow the law anyway, so nuking your cookies and localstorage when you close the browser or navigate away is what you should be doing if you're concerned about this sort of thing. Obviously sites I need to stay logged into get on the allowlist.

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Post by tanseydavid »

pacificmint wrote: post #29
recursivedoubts wrote: post #4

you will live to see man made enshitification beyond your comprehension

You know how there is the cliche that old people are always ranting how everything was better in their day? Personally, I'm not quite there yet, but the older I get, the more I see their point...

Shifting Baseline Syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifting_baseline

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by rikafurude21 »

mikepurvis wrote: post #67
rikafurude21 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every TV is essentially a dumb TV until you connect it to the internet. I bought a cheap TV and only use the remote to turn it on and have it connected via HDMI.

I intended on using mine that way, but honestly the built in Netflix and USB stick player are decent enough. As long as your receiver does the eARC thing it should all be fine.

It's always the convienent features that kill privacy. Sadly you have to put in more effort if you care about privacy at all

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Post by bombcar »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #61
rikafurude21 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every TV is essentially a dumb TV until you connect it to the internet. I bought a cheap TV and only use the remote to turn it on and have it connected via HDMI.

Unless it complains at you to connect it to wifi when you turn it on.

Vizio, so far, is quite nice in this regard, you power it on, it asks you to accept an agreement, you say no, and it says, welp, I guess I'm a dumb TV now.
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