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Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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> you can't buy a "dumb TV" They are sold as monitors and digital signage displays and cost a lot more than a consumer TV.

Every TV is essentially a dumb TV until you connect it to the internet. I bought a cheap TV and only use the remote to turn it on and have it connected via HDMI.

Unless it complains at you to connect it to wifi when you turn it on.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

> you can't buy a "dumb TV" They are sold as monitors and digital signage displays and cost a lot more than a consumer TV.

The largest "monitor" I can see on Newegg right now is 48" diagonal:

https://www.newegg.ca/lg-48gq900-b-48-uhd-120-hz-refresh-rat...

And that's an outlier— most are 27-36", with 32" being the overwhelming sweet spot.

In contrast, my TV is 77" diagonal, and most people would consider 55" to be about the minimum size for a new TV at this point, outside of special applications such as the bedroom/kitchen/etc. I don't know where I'd begin to go about purchasing a 77" 4K display from a digital signage vendor.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

> Just like nowadays you can't buy a "dumb TV" you can buy a computer monitor and connect it to apple tv. sure it won't be as big but it can't phone home.

Some monitor brands have started pushing wifi connections. Samsung has "smart" monitors now, other manufacturers probably do too

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

That has little to do with advertising though. When you drive, you still see billboards with advertising. When you take public transit, the buses and the trains can have ads inside and outside.

Yes but you don't own the bus/train nor the road with the billboards. But supposedly, you do own the car. Do cars get cheaper by adding ads inside? Nope.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Or just modify them. People used to replace their stereo, I suspect there would be a real market for add free infotainment systems.

It would be great to be able to buy a car and then delete the OS and install something I trusted on it but I can't imagine they will ever allow that. (If this is a real thing and I don't know about it please post here!) The printer world is the model I bet the car companies are all looking at WRT this approach. Litigate/claim DRM/make it hard or impossible for aftermarket/etc etc. Basically, these companies are the a…

Not only will "they" fight you but even here on a place literally called Hacker News will people screech about how you shouldn't be able to run your own software on your own car because of safety implications or whatever

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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you will live to see man made enshitification beyond your comprehension

You know how there is the cliche that old people are always ranting how everything was better in their day? Personally, I'm not quite there yet, but the older I get, the more I see their point...

the cliche is that it's a cliche

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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> you can't buy a "dumb TV" They are sold as monitors and digital signage displays and cost a lot more than a consumer TV.

Every TV is essentially a dumb TV until you connect it to the internet. I bought a cheap TV and only use the remote to turn it on and have it connected via HDMI.

I intended on using mine that way, but honestly the built in Netflix and USB stick player are decent enough. As long as your receiver does the eARC thing it should all be fine.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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> Just like nowadays you can't buy a "dumb TV" You can, if you buy used. I know it's weird to buy a used TV, but they cost pennies on the dollar and you can get some really nice models without today's ubiquitous annoyances. Same goes for cars. If enough people refrain from buying new cars, and put in the effort to keep their older cars on the road, maybe manufacturers will take the hint.

>Same goes for cars. If enough people refrain from buying new cars, and put in the effort to keep their older cars on the road, maybe manufacturers will take the hint. The opposite seems to be what happens. The manufacturers cater even harder to premium consumers who aren't in it for the long haul so you get heated subscription seats and stupid doodads that nobody needs but seem impressive on the test drive.

They can only pull that off because used car buyers put up with it. People who buy used cars have the option of buying a non-luxury new car, but they have consistently chosen the luxury versions used. (all cars have a lot of luxury features, but the least luxury models exist and don't sell well)

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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you will live to see man made enshitification beyond your comprehension

Or worse, some hacker/government locks your car doors, and turns your car into a remote-controlled 2-ton 140mph ground-to-ground projectile, while you're driving your kids to school.

i unironically believe this has been used to assassinate people in the united states
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