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Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by jmward01 »

Retric wrote: post #23
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just like nowadays you can't buy a "dumb TV" You can, if you buy used. I know it's weird to buy a used TV, but they cost pennies on the dollar and you can get some really nice models without today's ubiquitous annoyances. Same goes for cars. If enough people refrain from buying new cars, and put in the effort to keep their older cars on the road, maybe manufacturers will take the hint.

Or just modify them. People used to replace their stereo, I suspect there would be a real market for add free infotainment systems.

It would be great to be able to buy a car and then delete the OS and install something I trusted on it but I can't imagine they will ever allow that. (If this is a real thing and I don't know about it please post here!) The printer world is the model I bet the car companies are all looking at WRT this approach. Litigate/claim DRM/make it hard or impossible for aftermarket/etc etc. Basically, these companies are the adversary as opposed to a partner in your driving experience.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by spudlyo »

thesuitonym wrote: post #40
spudlyo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right!? There is also a popup ad on that very site. Here is a tip that I just recently learned that has improved my browsing experience with uBlock Origin. In the settings menu under "Filter Lists" there sections under the heading of "Cookie notices" and "Annoyances" that are not enabled by default. Blocking cookie popups has been wonderful, and I can only imagine what kind of annoyances are now being blocked for me.

Does blocking the cookie popup allow all cookies? Seems like that would be worse in my opinion.

Not entirely sure. I now flush all non-allowlisted cookies on browser exit after moving to LibreWolf, so I'm less concerned than I was about that sort of thing.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by [deleted] »

ericmay wrote: post #31
spudlyo wrote: post #6

You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

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Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by colechristensen »

spudlyo wrote: post #6

You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

In car infotainment advertising needs to be banned at the state level, likewise much of the telemetry they send home. State legislation is good for this kind of thing. Like you cannot sell a car with this feature in the state or display such advertising while on state roads, possibly even you cannot register a car in the state with this feature.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by harryquach »

spudlyo wrote: post #14
mikestew wrote: post #5

Speaking of ads, my Pi-hole about caught on fire when that page loaded, and there's still ads that it missed. The irony, given the article topic, is not lost on me.

Right!? There is also a popup ad on that very site. Here is a tip that I just recently learned that has improved my browsing experience with uBlock Origin. In the settings menu under "Filter Lists" there sections under the heading of "Cookie notices" and "Annoyances" that are not enabled by default. Blocking cookie popups has been wonderful, and I can only imagine what kind of annoyances are now being blocked for me.

I hate cookie popups, this will improve my browsing experience a ton, thanks for sharing!

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by jklinger410 »

Somewhat tangential: JEEP products that are not the traditional Wrangler and all of it's myriad variations are most likely the worst American vehicles ever made. I'm talking the Grand Cherokee, Wagoneer, Compass, etc.

This crap is being tried on that vehicle because JEEP drivers are some of the least discerning car buyers on the market. A perfect test bed for the most toxic features American manufacturers can imagine.

So it's a great sign that they are noticing and complaining. If this group can't handle it, hopefully they will consider it a failed experiment. For now.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by drpossum »

doublerabbit wrote: post #12

lol, you think Jeep care? Backlash sure, but five years later they're probably put advertising in your steering wheel.

I've found Jeep owners are their own brand of crazy. It's probably one of the few car cults that would endlessly put up with this kind of abuse because they just can't imagine NOT making their Jeep the core part of their identity.
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