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US stops sharing intelligence on Russia with Ukraine

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Re: US stops sharing intelligence on Russia with Ukraine

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Unfortunately, you're likely being generous to Putin if you think the killing will stop just because Ukraine surrenders.

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The same Finland that joined NATO in 2023? It looks like they're not as optimistic about their border stability as you are.

But what do they know, they just live next to Russia instead of on the other side of Atlantic.

Re: US stops sharing intelligence on Russia with Ukraine

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The US implementing Russian's foreign policy is something I didn't think possible. Trump clearly idolizes Putin (if not worse), and his supporters don't care.

For now. When trump starts his own Ukraine to get rid off internal opposition , the care will return like a howling drone swarm.

One can hope. So far it seems that when it's about Ukraine, Putin/Trump supporters are all about "peace whatever the cost (to Ukraine and the US' soft power)", but when it's about Canada/Greenland/Panama, then it's all peachy.

Re: US stops sharing intelligence on Russia with Ukraine

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Letting Russia get what it wants and inch ever closer to the center of Europe brings us closer to WWIII, not further away. It's enabling the aggressor and Russia will not stop - why would it? I hate to invoke Godwin's law, but if Hitler was stopped at Czechoslovakia, and then Poland, maybe we wouldn't have WWII. But the world didn't care back then, and apparently it still doesn't.

There have been thousands of border conflicts in Europe's history where a larger nation annexed small territories inhabited by its own ethic minority (or even majority). Most of them have not ended in a world war. We do not need to retake Karelia for Finland to prevent a world war. We no not need to take Gibraltar for Spain to prevent a world war. What about Northern Ireland? How about retaking Northern Cyprus for Gr…

The war will not stop as long as Ukraine exists. This attack was unprompted by Ukraine, and was just explicitly an annexation plan. They failed to execute it fully, but you're still willing to give in to all their demands. Let me remind you that Kremlin's position on Ukraine is "there is no Ukraine" - as in they don't really have a right for independence.

In other words, I believe you're just repeating Russian propaganda.

Re: US stops sharing intelligence on Russia with Ukraine

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There have been thousands of border conflicts in Europe's history where a larger nation annexed small territories inhabited by its own ethic minority (or even majority). Most of them have not ended in a world war. We do not need to retake Karelia for Finland to prevent a world war. We no not need to take Gibraltar for Spain to prevent a world war. What about Northern Ireland? How about retaking Northern Cyprus for Gr…

The war will not stop as long as Ukraine exists. This attack was unprompted by Ukraine, and was just explicitly an annexation plan. They failed to execute it fully, but you're still willing to give in to all their demands. Let me remind you that Kremlin's position on Ukraine is "there is no Ukraine" - as in they don't really have a right for independence. In other words, I believe you're just repeating Russian propag…

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Re: US stops sharing intelligence on Russia with Ukraine

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Your 2nd line is a unsupported claim, plus you paint the refugees as social security leeches. Can I counter-claim, that you're a worm-brained Russian troll (like RFK's worm, which can be the right-wingers' version of the "woke mind virus"), with a 10 minute old account?

Yeah, "discussion" seems a lot harder than downvoting idiotic claims. What is this "peace" you (or your -- I suspect -- other account ossobuco, his is the only comment about "peace" that's flagged to death) talk about if it's not "surrender"?

But hey, good news, there's lots of Trump lovers in here too, a comment about Trump loving Putin is also grey because of all the downvotes.

Re: US stops sharing intelligence on Russia with Ukraine

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The same Finland that joined NATO in 2023? It looks like they're not as optimistic about their border stability as you are. But what do they know, they just live next to Russia instead of on the other side of Atlantic.

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Re: US stops sharing intelligence on Russia with Ukraine

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Why is Russia winning and taking territory from Ukraine a good thing for anyone but Russia? Also, we knew Trump would do this because Trump is an ally of Putin, as (it seems) are you.

It's a win for me and pretty much everyone I know. We can finally start buying Russian gas again and doing business with them. This means our bills will drop after they've doubled over the past three years. Not to mention, we won't have to worry about getting dragged into a nuclear war.

Not a single person I know is willing to sacrifice their livelihood to defend Ukraine's borders. What an absurd idea.

Re: US stops sharing intelligence on Russia with Ukraine

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Your 2nd line is a unsupported claim, plus you paint the refugees as social security leeches. Can I counter-claim, that you're a worm-brained Russian troll (like RFK's worm, which can be the right-wingers' version of the "woke mind virus"), with a 10 minute old account? Yeah, "discussion" seems a lot harder than downvoting idiotic claims. What is this "peace" you (or your -- I suspect -- other account ossobuco, his i…

> or your -- I suspect -- other account ossobuco

Calling anyone who wants peace a bot or troll or foreign agent won't change things. It will only show that you are very displased at the idea that we won't get WWIII. Not a great look, trust me.

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