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I almost take this comment seriously until I read a second line
how dare you say our lord and savior jesus christ is not serious? that's blasphemy
Skynet won and destroyed humanity
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Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity
#22You can tell this was written by a human because they wrote that skynet still used violence in the end. When there’s a large enough intelligence differential, the lower intelligence cannot even tell they are at war (let alone determine who’s winning) Like the ants, unaware of the impending doom of 100 ways their colony is going to be destroyed by humanity - they couldn’t understand it even if we had the means to comm…
Skynet in the Terminator series never struck me as being paticularly high IQ. It's an electronic mind, so necessarily dependent on electricity, and the opening move was an atomic war that would've damaged power generation and distribution. T3 version was especially foolish, as it was a distributed virus operating on internet connected devices and had no protected core, so it was completely dependent on the civilian p…
For a machine that could invent time travel, it was impressively stupid.
Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aren't those saying the same thing? .. "its reliability became close to none" vs. "causes irreversible defects in the resulting models"
There’s thing that happens in humans called “hallucination” where they just make up stuff. You can’t really just take it at face value. Sometimes, they’re just overfit so they generate the same tokens independent of input.
That has never been the definition of hallucination, until LLMs. It's actually just called lying, dishonesty or falsehood.
Hallucination is a distortion (McKenna might say liberation) of perception. If I hallucinate being covered in spiders, I don't necessarily go around saying, "I'm covered in spiders, if you cant see them you're blind" (disclaimer: some might, but that's not a prerequisite of an hallucination).
The cynic in me thinks that use of the word hallucination is marketing to obscure functional inadequacy and reinforce the illusion that LLMs are some how analogous to human intelligence.
Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity
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Aren't those saying the same thing? .. "its reliability became close to none" vs. "causes irreversible defects in the resulting models"
There’s thing that happens in humans called “hallucination” where they just make up stuff. You can’t really just take it at face value. Sometimes, they’re just overfit so they generate the same tokens independent of input.
Confabulation is the accurate psychological term. Hallucination is a perceptual issue. The LLM term is misleading.
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There’s thing that happens in humans called “hallucination” where they just make up stuff. You can’t really just take it at face value. Sometimes, they’re just overfit so they generate the same tokens independent of input.
That has never been the definition of hallucination, until LLMs. It's actually just called lying, dishonesty or falsehood. Hallucination is a distortion (McKenna might say liberation) of perception. If I hallucinate being covered in spiders, I don't necessarily go around saying, "I'm covered in spiders, if you cant see them you're blind" (disclaimer: some might, but that's not a prerequisite of an hallucination). The…
Lying, dishonesty, and falsehood all imply motive/intent, which is not likely the case when referring to LLM hallucinations. Another term is "making a mistake," but this also reinforces the similarities between humans and LLMs, and doesn't feel very accurate when talking about a technical machine.
Sibling commenter correctly calls out the most similar human phenomenon: confabulation ("a memory error consisting of the production of fabricated, distorted, or misinterpreted memories about oneself or the world" per Wikipedia.)
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A small subset of them, sure. Mostly online services, and drugs, as far as I'm aware. I can't pay my rent or mortgage with crypto; I can't buy groceries with crypto. I can't buy gasoline or pay for electricity with crypto. I don't think I can pay for home internet, or my phone bill, with crypto. I definitely can't pay for any of my child's stuff with crypto. I think Tesla used to allow you to pay for their cars with…
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So will Muhammad ﷺ - what's your point?
Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity
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> and we are intelligent allegedly My running joke about AI is how can we create artificial intelligence, when we lack so much of it. Sadly I spent more times failing to copy and paste your message than I care to admit. I do gotta say though, it's a bit overhyped. It reminds me of crypto. If you listen to an "aibro" and a "cryptobro" they yap the same.
>My running joke about AI is how can we create artificial intelligence, when we lack so much of it. Maybe we've fallen into some sort evolutionary trap. Like that beetle that mates with beer bottles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julodimorpha_bakewelli The LLMs are just good enough with language to convince they're thinking can many tasks as well as people when often they aren't. People are talking about us having AGI…
that's unholy our lord and savior jesus dictated species and tribal/racial boundaries should be maintained
Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s thing that happens in humans called “hallucination” where they just make up stuff. You can’t really just take it at face value. Sometimes, they’re just overfit so they generate the same tokens independent of input.
That has never been the definition of hallucination, until LLMs. It's actually just called lying, dishonesty or falsehood. Hallucination is a distortion (McKenna might say liberation) of perception. If I hallucinate being covered in spiders, I don't necessarily go around saying, "I'm covered in spiders, if you cant see them you're blind" (disclaimer: some might, but that's not a prerequisite of an hallucination). The…
I believe the term hallucination comes from vision models, where the model would "hallucinate" an object where none exists.
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That has never been the definition of hallucination, until LLMs. It's actually just called lying, dishonesty or falsehood. Hallucination is a distortion (McKenna might say liberation) of perception. If I hallucinate being covered in spiders, I don't necessarily go around saying, "I'm covered in spiders, if you cant see them you're blind" (disclaimer: some might, but that's not a prerequisite of an hallucination). The…
Lying, dishonesty, and falsehood all imply motive/intent, which is not likely the case when referring to LLM hallucinations. Another term is "making a mistake," but this also reinforces the similarities between humans and LLMs, and doesn't feel very accurate when talking about a technical machine. Sibling commenter correctly calls out the most similar human phenomenon: confabulation ("a memory error consisting of the…
IMHO Lying means thinking one thing and saying another, hiding your true internal state. For it to be effective it also seems to require something like “theory of mind” (what does the other person know / think that I know).