I wish humans were better at coordination, or instead of "social media" people got addicted to social bargaining: because this would be the perfect time for a united consumer front, demanding that that big companies take more of a hit from their profit margin than from employee wages or raised prices. Threatening to starve out a company if it doesn't implement these tariff increases in a more reasonable way than the entirety of capitalism history would be the only way to turn around the avalanche it has been
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#182Any bets on how this will be justified by Trump voters? I'm thinking at first it'll be 'playing hardball negotiating tactic' and when it looks like the tariffs are here to stay 'paying more is patriotic'.
When your'e deified, "god works in mysterious ways" sort of thing...
I read an article, can’t find it now, that the Christian right believes Trump is basically a biblical messiah like Cyrus the Great from Isaiah 45. Basically a nonbeliever who God controls to help his people.
People believe what they want to believe.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
It looks like your interpreter might be buggy
For what it’s worth it wasn’t me that flagged your reply. All I’m saying is that politics is as intertwined with technology news as much as economics or religion or pop culture or anything else, and imho should be considered as equally valid sidebar conversations as the others. If we can’t talk about things that make people uncomfortable, sicko people will take control of those very things and we will all suffer down…
It's alright, I'm not shy to the flagging and downvotes. I appreciate your thoughtful response
From my understanding, your argument is a variation of "many/all things are politics and therefore politics cannot be disentangled from the topic" which I've seen others mention before. Sure, you can find ways to connect things to certain policies and politicians and then talk about that solely. Yes, economics becomes politics and recent tariffs are certainly policy-related. That doesn't mean we must discuss the political aspects of it.
The problem becomes that jumping to politics is very polarizing, identity-driven, and quickly drowns out curious discussion. The OP made a political statement, which won him easy points to push his comment to the top since there are so many who share the mindset of OP's comment. Any discussion about things not directly related to politics was pushed down. The effect happens across threads so frequently that no other conversation is left but politics. Those who don't want to talk politics spend time elsewhere, creating a feedback loop.
PG has a great essay about this here: https://paulgraham.com/identity.html
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No? I see comments here discussing things other than politics
You don't, you just don't understand how they're intrinsically linked to politics. That's not me being mean, because a lot of the time it isn't obvious. But, you would be shocked how often you can trace an exact bill or executive order that is causing the thing people are thinking about. I mean, you can trace various seemingly random effects today to Reagan policies.
I responded to a similar comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43263416
Essentially, yes those other comments are linked to politics. All things could be extrapolated to politics. That doesn't mean we should directly talk about the political aspects, otherwise it drowns out curious discussion
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#185But they're already talking about walking it back or lowering them tomorrow (Wed). All these stupid sky-is-falling headlines that become forgotten in a couple days when it's on to the next outrage moment. Like the whole Zelensky/Trump white house blow up is like sitting in on couples therapy. The deal is off! No, it's back on! It's tiresome. Edit: I'm not pro Trump or trying to defend the fuckery. I'm just sick of Tr…
Interesting. Does revoking all funding for Ukraine equate to "walking it back"?
https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/u-s-hitting-b...
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
I haven’t paid attention to the politics here much, but isn’t driving up the price the point? If you charge Canada a 25% tariff then products sold in the U.S. and shipped from Canada should cost U.S. consumers about 25% more. That, in turn, makes U.S. products look more attractive. A U.S. business pays taxes at the federal and state levels. A U.S. business also hires U.S. employees, who pay taxes as well and spend in…
If tariffs are such a great idea, should California slap tariffs on Florida oranges to protect its domestic orange growers?
Oh they would have tried if it wasn’t for that pesky commerce clause in the constitution
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#187Any bets on how this will be justified by Trump voters? I'm thinking at first it'll be 'playing hardball negotiating tactic' and when it looks like the tariffs are here to stay 'paying more is patriotic'.
No, it will be Biden’s fault for ruining the economy and causing inflation. Trump didn’t have a choice, just trying to save the economy really. Doing what’s best for the people.
Trump promised to lower inflation and eggs prices. Are those lowering?
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You appear to be asking people to keep politics out of politics. What am I missing?
More like asking people to focus on the economic considerations because the political discussion is boring and repetitive, I think.
Is invading Greenland really all that boring?
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More like asking people to focus on the economic considerations because the political discussion is boring and repetitive, I think.
Is invading Greenland really all that boring?
Have people not noticed that Trump seems to habitually make hyperbolic and ridiculous sounding statements?
Like it’s not doing him any favors, I tend to feel it’s some kind of personality defect.
Though it did get him a lot of attention in the past, which substantially led to him becoming president.
Either he can’t turn it off, or the decade plus of increasingly internet centric media exposure among the general population just selected for a guy who had obvious populist but not too radical views and also makes ridiculous statements to get attention.
Greenland will not be taken by force. The reminder of a possibility of force may be used as leverage in the negotiation. The messaging is kind of whacky, but it would make sense to broadcast the threat widely to achieve credibility. Like “he’s so crazy he might just pull the trigger”.
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#190I wish humans were better at coordination, or instead of "social media" people got addicted to social bargaining: because this would be the perfect time for a united consumer front, demanding that that big companies take more of a hit from their profit margin than from employee wages or raised prices. Threatening to starve out a company if it doesn't implement these tariff increases in a more reasonable way than the…
If the citizens of the United States were capable of coordinating to threaten anyone, it should be their government into recinding these new taxes.