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Best Buy and Target CEOs say prices are about to go up because of tariffs

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Re: Best Buy and Target CEOs say prices are about to go up because of tariffs

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Post by chrsig »

scarface_74 wrote: post #143
chrsig wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> he can’t cut either one without Congress. What is he going to do? Not send checks to senior citizens? cut it anyway then deal with the 'consequences' in court. obviously.

The minute that Republicans allow one penny of cuts to social security, senior citizens - the most active voters - are going to abandon the Republican Party in droves. It might even turn Florida Blue again. If they cut Medicare reimbursements or force senior citizens to pay more, it will have the same affect. Modifying health care benefits that people already have has hurt Democrats in 2010 with the ACA and Republica…

no...they'll just let the seniors die.

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Post by consteval »

jameslk wrote: post #117
Ar-Curunir wrote: post #86

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You realize that the only reason this is a topic of discussion is because of politics, right?

No? I see comments here discussing things other than politics

You don't, you just don't understand how they're intrinsically linked to politics. That's not me being mean, because a lot of the time it isn't obvious. But, you would be shocked how often you can trace an exact bill or executive order that is causing the thing people are thinking about.

I mean, you can trace various seemingly random effects today to Reagan policies.

Re: Best Buy and Target CEOs say prices are about to go up because of tariffs

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Post by whattheheckheck »

jameslk wrote: post #158
johnnyanmac wrote: post #154

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Straw man is picking out a weak or unrelated argument. Seriously, what are you asking here?

> Why bother leaving a comment like this?

Ask yourself

Re: Best Buy and Target CEOs say prices are about to go up because of tariffs

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Post by pfannkuchen »

kadoban wrote: post #132
jameslk wrote: post #62

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This could be an interesting topic, but inevitably these posts devolve into politics and it’s always about the same thing. Yet this is the type of comment at the top. Why bother leaving a comment like this?

You appear to be asking people to keep politics out of politics. What am I missing?

More like asking people to focus on the economic considerations because the political discussion is boring and repetitive, I think.

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Post by emodendroket »

Aloha wrote: post #120
tombert wrote: post #91

Who would have thought that increasing the price of goods will lead to higher prices? I'm not necessarily against tariffs, but I think it's idiotic to think that raising the price is going to somehow lower grocery prices.

I'm pro tariff - but 25% tariffs are absurd, at most you need 10%-12% in narrowly targeted categories to ensure re-onshoring of production.

They're clearly thinking much bigger, like returning to a model where tariffs are the primary mode of funding the government, and nuking whole sectors/devaluing the dollar to make US exports more competitive with a desperate potential workforce. Not a particularly compelling plan in my view but it has its own internal logic.

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Post by Marsymars »

Aloha wrote: post #120
tombert wrote: post #91

Who would have thought that increasing the price of goods will lead to higher prices? I'm not necessarily against tariffs, but I think it's idiotic to think that raising the price is going to somehow lower grocery prices.

I'm pro tariff - but 25% tariffs are absurd, at most you need 10%-12% in narrowly targeted categories to ensure re-onshoring of production.

I’m curious - I wouldn’t describe myself as “pro tariff” at all, but I can see a good case for them in a couple circumstances; 1) in cases where production is important for national security - e.g. sufficient production of Calories and 2) in cases where off-shored production isn’t meeting standards around human rights, environmental protection, etc.

Do you see a case for tariffs otherwise?

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Post by andelink »

bluGill wrote: post #146
johnnyanmac wrote: post #125

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I never particularly thought of "free trade" as a conservative policy. I thought it was fairly bipartisan that large corporations want to get the cheapest prices for stuff (which often is not within the US).

Clinton wasn't able to get a significant number of his own party to vote for it while significant numbers of republicans supported it. At the time free trade was a rebuplican talking point and many democrats opposed it.

Because NAFTA is the brainchild of Reagan. Bush Sr worked out most of the policy with CA/MX. Finally, Clinton signed it into law, with little influence on the policies overall.

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Post by thunkingdeep »

jameslk wrote: post #161
johnnyanmac wrote: post #155

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>When did I say that? I interpreated as such here: >inevitably these posts devolve into politics

It looks like your interpreter might be buggy

For what it’s worth it wasn’t me that flagged your reply.

All I’m saying is that politics is as intertwined with technology news as much as economics or religion or pop culture or anything else, and imho should be considered as equally valid sidebar conversations as the others.

If we can’t talk about things that make people uncomfortable, sicko people will take control of those very things and we will all suffer down the road. Better to just bite the bullet and let it all hang out.

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Post by MichaelZuo »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #170
MichaelZuo wrote: post #168

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How does this relate to the prior claim? It’s clearly possible for people to have ulterior goals and motives… so assessments based on outward usages, of anything, seem irrelevant to determining intelligence, or the lack of it.

This is my first reply to you, AFAIK. So I'm not sure what the thoughts are of the claim up the chain. I'm not interested in this tangent here that you keep trying to veer on. Point it many economists know this trade war is not good for the economy. The history of this is as recent as Trump 45.

This doesn’t make sense. Of course I know you are a different user, otherwise I would have reiterated the unanswered question directly.

Re: Best Buy and Target CEOs say prices are about to go up because of tariffs

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Post by johnnyanmac »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #179
johnnyanmac wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is my first reply to you, AFAIK. So I'm not sure what the thoughts are of the claim up the chain. I'm not interested in this tangent here that you keep trying to veer on. Point it many economists know this trade war is not good for the economy. The history of this is as recent as Trump 45.

This doesn’t make sense. Of course I know you are a different user, otherwise I would have reiterated the unanswered question directly.

I'm not a mind reader and my question was never focused on that part of the conversation. I have no opinion on the aforementionedtamgent. What are you asking me about (since you won't engage in the original conversation)
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