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Re: Show HN: Time travel debugging AI for more reliable vibe coding

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Post by bhackett »

PetrBrzyBrzek wrote: post #10

If anyone is wondering why it looks like Bolt, it’s because it’s using Bolt.DIY, an open-source fork of Bolt ( https://github.com/stackblitz-labs/bolt.diy ). The catch is that it's still using WebContainers from StackBlitz, so it's not really possible to run it commercially. You need to get rid of WebContainers and find something different.

Thanks, yeah we're really thankful to StackBlitz for open sourcing the early version of Bolt.new and to the Bolt.diy community for continuing to develop it.

We don't have a commercial offering yet and are planning to migrate off WebContainers for the upcoming full stack features -- WebContainers show their limits pretty quickly in a full stack context (e.g. CORS issues) and we need observability into the server side of the app for full stack debugging.

Regardless, our interests here are only lightly commercial. We're not really developing Nut to drive revenue but to help us develop the debugging API and push forward the SOTA for AI development as effectively as we can. That API is what we want to sell.

Re: Show HN: Time travel debugging AI for more reliable vibe coding

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Post by itishappy »

bhackett wrote: post #6
zaptrem wrote: post #2

Just letting you know the about page has black text on a black background

Thanks for the report! The about page is fixed now when looking at it in dark mode.

Black text on black background is also used on the problems page, and the background only extends downwards one page length.

Re: Show HN: Time travel debugging AI for more reliable vibe coding

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Post by krat0sprakhar »

nenadg wrote: post #3

Looks fun and it does create something - https://nut.new/chat/prince-of-persia-platform-game I couldn't start the game though, but it seems runnable given some debugging. Great work!

Can you share the prompt you used to generate this game? (given chats aren't sharable)

Re: Show HN: Time travel debugging AI for more reliable vibe coding

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Post by ryandrake »

unclad5968 wrote: post #14

What is vibe coding?

The way I understood it: Cobbling a program together by simply prompting AI assistants over and over, blindly using the generated code, and repeating until it barely approaches satisfying the requirements. Not worrying about things like correctness, proper design, code cleanliness, understandability, performance, code size, security, data protection, maintainability, or even bugs unless they catastrophically stop the user from running the program.

I really hope this doesn't actually catch on in "real" engineering, beside as a meme joke.

Re: Show HN: Time travel debugging AI for more reliable vibe coding

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Post by spiderfarmer »

ryandrake wrote: post #16
unclad5968 wrote: post #14

What is vibe coding?

The way I understood it: Cobbling a program together by simply prompting AI assistants over and over, blindly using the generated code, and repeating until it barely approaches satisfying the requirements. Not worrying about things like correctness, proper design, code cleanliness, understandability, performance, code size, security, data protection, maintainability, or even bugs unless they catastrophically stop the…

Judging by how many people blindly posted Stackoverflow answers, there will be a significant amount of code ‘written’ this way.

Re: Show HN: Time travel debugging AI for more reliable vibe coding

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Post by bhackett »

itishappy wrote: post #12
bhackett wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the report! The about page is fixed now when looking at it in dark mode.

Black text on black background is also used on the problems page, and the background only extends downwards one page length.

Thanks! These are both fixed now. Clearly we need to do some more dark mode testing...

Re: Show HN: Time travel debugging AI for more reliable vibe coding

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Post by theturtletalks »

bhackett wrote: post #9
theturtletalks wrote: post #8

Nut looks like a fork of Bolt, how does Nut differ?

Yes, Nut is a fork of https://bolt.diy and like bolt.diy you can add your own API key and use it as much as you want (Nut is hosted though so you don't have to set anything else up). The improvements we're making are under the hood. When you ask Nut to fix a bug it should do a much better job -- we record the app's behavior and analyze it so the AI has context for the changes it needs to make. We've also added some U…

Interesting, I'll check it out. Any plans to open source Nut like Bolt is?

Re: Show HN: Time travel debugging AI for more reliable vibe coding

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Post by bhackett »

ryandrake wrote: post #16
unclad5968 wrote: post #14

What is vibe coding?

The way I understood it: Cobbling a program together by simply prompting AI assistants over and over, blindly using the generated code, and repeating until it barely approaches satisfying the requirements. Not worrying about things like correctness, proper design, code cleanliness, understandability, performance, code size, security, data protection, maintainability, or even bugs unless they catastrophically stop the…

Yes, that's all true. Even so, vibe coding empowers anyone who can write clear instructions to build software, but the limits of the technology get hit pretty quickly by non-developers and they have little recourse. This blog post https://addyo.substack.com/p/the-70-problem-hard-truths-abou... is a great overview.

The tech will get better and better (I couldn't imagine we'd be doing this a year ago) but to be truly useful it has to reliably produce reasonably well engineered code, and effective debugging is a key piece of that.

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