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Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by BoredPositron »

layer8 wrote: post #104
BoredPositron wrote: post #12

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iPad (cheap ol reliable) iPad AIR (pro lite) iPad mini (mini with iPad tech) iPad Pro (for artists or people who think they can replace their MacBooks with it but in the end they can’t)

The iPad mini is really an Air mini (better screen than the basic iPad, etc.), except for the SoC (A17 Pro currently), which may be for size (heat dissipation) reasons.

Yeah, it's a bit different with the mini and it's longer product cycle the first half it usually goes toe to toe with the air and in the second part of the cycle with the then newly released normal iPad.

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

layer8 wrote: post #135
WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #129

Will an older Magic keyboard, that went with an iPad Air of a previous generation, work with these new iPad Airs?

Since the new keyboard is still compatible with the older iPad Airs, I’d assume the reverse is true as well. The (last year) Pro keyboards aren’t compatible because the magnets layout on the M4 iPad Pro is different.

The story with these keyboards, especially iPad Pro keyboards, is the ugly part of the whole iPad experience. “Fuck you, give us money” more or less.

But wait, given how iPad Pros now have the same SoC as MacBook Airs, but are crippled (or should I say, “computationally challenged”?), it wouldn’t surprise me if a MacBook Air with built-in cellular connectivity would just make iPad Pro dead in the water.

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Post by scruple »

alabastervlog wrote: post #143
eknkc wrote: post #49

I owned multiple iPads and never found a compelling use case for them. I don't know why I keep buying them but they have been great computers for my parents so it's not like I buy to shelf them. Are there any use cases (apart from drawing maybe. I can't draw a stick figure if my life depended on it so that's not for me) for developers?

They're a computer for things that your laptop sucks at. Draw directly on them, use them for reading, carry them to work sites and use them in situations where a laptop would be super-awkward, put them on sheet music stands, prop them up in the kitchen, hold them up and use their tilt sensors in games, all that kind of stuff. They're basically never better than a laptop at things laptops are good at (though often ser…

> They're basically never better than a laptop at things laptops are good at (though often serviceable enough that folks don't need both)

I'm experimenting with replacing my personal laptop with an iPad Pro this year. I'm not a professional content creator, photo or video editor, etc. So far it's been great. I write a lot, creative writing, journaling, and lots of note taking. It's been wonderful for all of these tasks and it basically goes with me everywhere.

Re: Apple introduces iPad Air with powerful M3 chip and new Magic Keyboard

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Post by paulcole »

criddell wrote: post #74
paulcole wrote: post #58

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I bought the iPad Pro in 2020 (13”, last on the A series of chips) and the screen is so much nicer than on any iPad I’ve ever used before. I was planning to buy a new one this year if there’s a notable release but OK with waiting another year. That said, with the Air having M3 and being available in 13”, I’ll have to take a long hard look at whether that screen is worth the extra money to me. I’d imagine that’ll rema…

I bought an 13" M4 iPad Pro when it was released and returned it a week later because I didn't like the magic keyboard. I went back to my 2018 iPad Pro with the Smart Keyboard Folio. I've been waiting and hoping for some third party to come along and clone the Smart Keyboard Folio. If they did, I'd repurchase an M4 iPad because other than the keyboard it was great. I was just looking at the apple website to see if th…

I love the Magic Keyboard's usefulness despite how crappy the durability is for such a high-priced accessory.

I also have the Smart Keyboard Folio and like it will enough but the angles it sits at aren't what I prefer and I really got used to the trackpad on it. The fabric-y feel of the keys is very nice and durability wise it seems to be holding up better than the Magic Keyboard (but to be fair, I probably use the Magic Keyboard 75% of the time).

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Post by paulcole »

silveira wrote: post #92
toomuchtodo wrote: post #41

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Do they all support the Apple Pencil? Or only certain versions? Thank you for this.

No, there are 4 different Apple Pencil versions and each has a list of compatible iPads. Here is the full list. https://support.apple.com/en-us/108937

I thought you were joking about this but they are still selling 3 different pencils. At least one has been retired. But Jesus what a mess of a lineup.

I'm assuming/wishing/hoping they are going to get to Good Pencil and Great Pencil and Good Pencil works on everything and Great Pencil works on a limited set of products.

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Post by throwaway902ntw »

sslbits wrote: post #211
couchdb_ouchdb wrote: post #173

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Just tether to your phone

Whenever someone expresses a desire for Apple to produce a macbook with a 5G or LTE modem, someone always responds with "tether to your phone" or "use a hotspot" and I don't find these comments particularly useful. Hotspot/tethered data is a separate pool from general mobile data. Once you've consumed the guaranteed "high" speeds (60GB on AT&T's current Unlimited Premium Plan), all hotspot speeds are then hard capped…

> Hotspot/tethered data is a separate pool from general mobile data.

This is only true if your device has an anti-user feature that prioritizes your carrier's interest over your own. Most Android custom ROMs allows you to bypass this, and iirc jailbroken iPhones too.

The whole point of this is to stop you from using mobile data on your laptops. I find it hard to believe that Apple wouldn't collude with mobile carriers to implement restrictions if they do make such a device.

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Post by csa »

financetechbro wrote: post #153
gradyfps wrote: post #146

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What you're referencing is usually called the decoy effect, which isn't the same as decision paralysis.

Never heard of decoy effect. Always referred to this phenomenon as “anchoring”

> Never heard of decoy effect. Always referred to this phenomenon as “anchoring”

Correct. The example they gave is anchoring.

Anchoring typically looks like $10-$25-$50, and they want you to buy the $25 item. Sometimes the presence of the $50 item can have zero sales, but the $25 item will sell better than if the options were just $10 and $25.

Decoy would be more like $10-$40-$50, and they want you to buy the $50 item and the $40 item has less than it’s sticker value. Decoy is commonly used to encourage people to buy at the top of their budget range (as one example).

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Post by alberth »

ustad wrote: post #19
notesinthefield wrote: post #6

Were it not for constantly updated buying guides from tech news sites, Im not sure anyone even Apple employees themselves would know which iPad to recommend to anyone.

Studies have shown that when companies present an overwhelming number of choices, consumers often end up spending more. The psychology behind this is rooted in decision fatigue, where consumers are more likely to choose something familiar or assume that a more expensive product is the best choice.

Isn't it just a "price laddering" strategy.

Where you make the prices of a maxed out lower tier product be more expensive than a barebones higher tier, so it incentives you to "ladder up" your product choice.

Best explained by MKBHD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiNYOZZLOyg

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Post by ProfessorLayton »

scarface_74 wrote: post #193
bsimpson wrote: post #130

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Reminds me of when Steve cut all the numerical suffixes from the product line and drew the grid: home work portable iBook | PowerBook ----------------- desktop iMac | PowerMac

And in 2010 before Jobs passed there was already the MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro for laptops And for desktops, the Mac Mini, iMac and MacPro. For phones, Apple was selling the 3G, 3GS, and iPhone 4. For iPods, they were selling the Shuffle, Nano, regular iPod and the iPod Touch. So selling three regular iPads and the Mini is nothing different now.

All the products except maybe the 3G/3GS are clearly differentiated. What is new is having several iPads that are nearly indistinguishable from each other without Apple's comparison tool.

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Post by scarface_74 »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #229
scarface_74 wrote: post #193

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And in 2010 before Jobs passed there was already the MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro for laptops And for desktops, the Mac Mini, iMac and MacPro. For phones, Apple was selling the 3G, 3GS, and iPhone 4. For iPods, they were selling the Shuffle, Nano, regular iPod and the iPod Touch. So selling three regular iPads and the Mini is nothing different now.

All the products except maybe the 3G/3GS are clearly differentiated. What is new is having several iPads that are nearly indistinguishable from each other without Apple's comparison tool.

How can you tell the difference between the 3G and 3GS except for speed?

Do you know off the top of your head the difference between the MacBook and MacBook Pro at the time? Would you have known then?

Jobs passed the day the iPhone 4S was released and they were selling the 3GS, 4 and 4S. I’m sure he had something to do with the lineup. The 4 and the 4S were indistinguishable from the outside and the 4S and was only faster.

As far as iPads…

iPad - $350, slowest processor, worse screen of the three iPads

iPad Air - $799, higher price, faster processor (M3), more memory, better screen (anti reflective coating), choice of larger screen

iPad Pro - $1199, higher price, better screen with higher refresh rate and slightly higher resolution, better processor (M3 vs M4), better camera, faster USB C, Face ID, better speakers.

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