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Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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Re: Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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Comments like these help remind me a large fraction of this website lives in an alternative reality.

Why? Where else would the money for the down payment come from? People don't keep tens of thousands in their checking accounts.

Yes, there are savings and money market accounts for that sort of thing.

Re: Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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post #18

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Comments like these help remind me a large fraction of this website lives in an alternative reality.

Why? Where else would the money for the down payment come from? People don't keep tens of thousands in their checking accounts.

Usually people save money in a savings account.

Re: Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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post #18

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Why? Where else would the money for the down payment come from? People don't keep tens of thousands in their checking accounts.

Usually people save money in a savings account.

Future homeowners don't. I suspect there is a pretty strong correlation between people who invest their money and those who buy houses.

It is hard to imagine anyone affording a a mortgage if their savings are rotting away at 5% less than inflation.

Re: Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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How are you planning to buy a house without cashing out stock investments?

Silicon Valley brain is real, folks

I thought about saying something snarky, but suffice to say I don't think that socks are a silicon valley invention, and I think you are at a major disadvantage to more flexible/savvy investors.

https://www.wealthfront.com/blog/invest-when-rates-rise/

Re: Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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Hopefully it gets housing/real estate as well because I'd really like to buy a house in the next ten years.

In times of economic upheaval/resets, labour does not find bargains, capital does. Housing prices might take a hit, but by the time they pop up on the open market, you won't be buying from a distressed seller, but rather a numbered corporation domiciled in Delaware that's picked up all those properties in cash, cheap.

Who wouldn't sell houses on the open market?

Re: Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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Usually people save money in a savings account.

Future homeowners don't. I suspect there is a pretty strong correlation between people who invest their money and those who buy houses. It is hard to imagine anyone affording a a mortgage if their savings are rotting away at 5% less than inflation.

Depends on how soon you are planning to buy. The usual rule of thumb for a big purchase (house, car, etc) is that if you’re planning on it occurring in 3-5 years, put money in a savings account. Otherwise, yeah you should probably invest it.

Re: Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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Future homeowners don't. I suspect there is a pretty strong correlation between people who invest their money and those who buy houses. It is hard to imagine anyone affording a a mortgage if their savings are rotting away at 5% less than inflation.

Depends on how soon you are planning to buy. The usual rule of thumb for a big purchase (house, car, etc) is that if you’re planning on it occurring in 3-5 years, put money in a savings account. Otherwise, yeah you should probably invest it.

I agree there is a time and place for it. 5 years is a bit long IMO. The S&P500 is up 250% in the last 5 years, while savings would have netted maybe 10% growth in that time. I imagine some sort of hedge would be appropriate, but have definitely been burnt by taking money out of the market too soon.

Im just shocked that some people think stock is some SV alternate reality. I grew up in a rural community before the internet, and even then, nobody I knew was long term saving for houses or retirement with a savings account.

Re: Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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How are you planning to buy a house without cashing out stock investments?

Silicon Valley brain is real, folks

You understand that most Americans (>60%) own stock, right?

You're just patronizing everyone who isn't in Silicon Valley with a statement like this.

Re: Options traders are bracing for a stock-market crash

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Silicon Valley brain is real, folks

You understand that most Americans (>60%) own stock, right? You're just patronizing everyone who isn't in Silicon Valley with a statement like this.

">60% of Americans own stock" does not tell the whole story.

First, how many Americans only own stock as part of their 401(k) or IRA and can't liquidate it without affecting their retirement?

Second, how many Americans own stock portfolios with sufficient value that they could liquidate them and purchase a house for cash, as the initial response implied? I guarantee you it's less than 60%.

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