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Re: Public health data disappeared. RestoredCDC.org is bringing it back

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Post by EdwardDiego »

cupcakecommons wrote: post #50
AlphaSite wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is exhaustive and things have expanded since this was published, but this[1] somewhat covers this > CDC webpages currently note that the "CDC's website is being modified to comply with President Trump's Executive Orders." Specifically, the CDC has been purging its website of topics related to diversity, gender identity, and LGBTQ issues. In addition, CDC researchers have been ordered to retract pap…

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Oh, you're sealioning. It's cute that you think we don't recognise it for what it is.

https://wondermark.com/c/1062/

Re: Public health data disappeared. RestoredCDC.org is bringing it back

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Post by energy123 »

tstrimple wrote: post #107
energy123 wrote: post #94

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Not sure why this got downvoted, this is stating two clearly correct premises. The only people who will vote against Trump are in the Democratic Party, and the only way they'll get enough representatives into power is with economic collapse. Inflation is the only thing voters care about to a very accurate first approximation. Dismantling the institutions and installing autocracy is not something that causes public se…

> Inflation is the only thing voters care about to a very accurate first approximation. And yet there always seems to be a stark contrast between what conservatives state they voted for versus what studies bear out in that regard. Basically every election in my politically aware history has come down to "the economy" and yet conservatives can see all time highs across many metrics and decry something as a "bad econom…

Metrics are averages that obscure the heterogeneity of base reality. About 100 million Americans own no significant assets. Metrics that show stonks going up is not lived by these people. They hold some fiat which deteriorated in value and a real wage which has declined because housing inflation is a larger proportion of their expenditure than what the CPI basket has weighted. Housing ownership is further out of reach than ever, while inequality has ballooned because asset owners doubled their wealth due to asset price inflation.

So it is accurate that for this subset of people, inflation has been destructive, in an absolute sense but especially in a relative sense. And it's this subset of people that broke for Trump, educational polarization is at an all time high and the racial purity of Trump's base eroded with Hispanics entering the coalition.

Re: Public health data disappeared. RestoredCDC.org is bringing it back

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Post by Nasrudith »

sepositus wrote: post #48
mschuster91 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “You need to do your fucking job right because other people from other states are watching your ass,” the man allegedly said in a voicemail. “You fucking renege on this deal or give them any more troubles, your ass will never make it to your next little board meeting.” German election official with about one and a half decades of experience here: That's helluvalot disturbing. This is mafia mentality, this is shit I…

Interesting question. Why didn’t America fail right off the bat with this problem? What has changed that this type of behavior is becoming increasingly common?

The gain of cowardice and/or implicit official approval by not reflexively cracking down on them.

In the 18th to 19th century American administrations weren't squeamish to outright use the army to gun down riots or insurrections. Influenced perhaps by the very literal "reading of the riot act" as an official threat to shoot entire crowds as an accepted thing. Attempt death threats to public officials then and the only question was if you would be shot or hanged for doing so. The appetite for that has been lost over time, perhaps related to Kent State and Tienanmen Square changing the optics from 'strong authority restoring order' to 'depraved psychopathic tyrannical government'.

Not that we need that level of violence, all that is really needed to is to give the Secret Service standard of treatment for death threats to the president handed down to all other lesser officials. If being tracked down and arrested was an absolute certainty instead of something they could think they could get away with.

Re: Public health data disappeared. RestoredCDC.org is bringing it back

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Post by unification_fan »

AlphaSite wrote: post #43
cupcakecommons wrote: post #26

What has actually disappeared? pubmed went down for a little bit - but it's back now. What is all this about?

I don't think this is exhaustive and things have expanded since this was published, but this[1] somewhat covers this > CDC webpages currently note that the "CDC's website is being modified to comply with President Trump's Executive Orders." Specifically, the CDC has been purging its website of topics related to diversity, gender identity, and LGBTQ issues. In addition, CDC researchers have been ordered to retract pap…

> pregnant people

I'm usually not a bigot but that one is dumb

Re: Public health data disappeared. RestoredCDC.org is bringing it back

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Post by throwaway290 »

a_bonobo wrote: post #58
throwaway290 wrote: post #29

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I hate that many projects use Discord where anything else (IRC, Matrix, whatever) would work but in this case especially. Tencent owns an undisclosed share in Discord and just generally seems like a bad choice of communication platform if you want to look better than doge

Discord works by clicking a button - you get to signup, you fill in your email, bam you're on the Discord channel in your browser. Zero friction, nothing new to learn for the user. IRC on the other hand....

Discord basically phased out in browser. There is no link to it only the link to get the 500 MB behemoth app. If you manage to open web ui because it is in your browser history it hits you with a captcha and email verification code every time. Etc

Re: Public health data disappeared. RestoredCDC.org is bringing it back

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Post by exe34 »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #33
redeux wrote: post #8

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Correctly identifying the systemic causes of poor health outcomes among certain populations isn’t politics.

Yes, it is. It's also science, and also a good thing , but that doesn't stop it from being politics. > Politics (from Ancient Greek πολιτικά (politiká) 'affairs of the cities') is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations among individuals, such as the distribution of status or resources. ­— Wikipedia

by that logic absolutely everything about government is politics, and therefore the word is not very useful. why do you keep using it? is it possible you're trying to lean on some implications of using the word but you haven't been brave enough to state them outright?

Re: Public health data disappeared. RestoredCDC.org is bringing it back

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Post by timewizard »

jfengel wrote: post #74
buckle8017 wrote: post #64

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So just to confirm: you think this is a bad thing. Ok. I'll count on you to push back on the President if this indeed turns out to be what he wants.

> I'll count on you to push back on the President if this indeed turns out to be what he wants.

Can we count on you to make up the difference in their paycheck if they're fired for this? Also, is there some reason you couldn't organize this pushback externally, right now?

Re: Public health data disappeared. RestoredCDC.org is bringing it back

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Post by watwut »

energy123 wrote: post #112
tstrimple wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Inflation is the only thing voters care about to a very accurate first approximation. And yet there always seems to be a stark contrast between what conservatives state they voted for versus what studies bear out in that regard. Basically every election in my politically aware history has come down to "the economy" and yet conservatives can see all time highs across many metrics and decry something as a "bad econom…

Metrics are averages that obscure the heterogeneity of base reality. About 100 million Americans own no significant assets. Metrics that show stonks going up is not lived by these people. They hold some fiat which deteriorated in value and a real wage which has declined because housing inflation is a larger proportion of their expenditure than what the CPI basket has weighted. Housing ownership is further out of reac…

The same people will vote for radical conservatives after inflation and prices rises again. And they won't vote for democrats no matter well democrats run the economy.

It is not inflation. Inflation is something they latch on when convenient.

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