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Re: I Saw Democracy Die in Russia

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Post by dpc_01234 » Mon, Mar 03, 2025, 6:34 PM UTC

senkora wrote: post #5

I encourage people to read the post. Whether or not Russia was ever a democracy in recent times, the author draws clear, specific parallels to the erosion of checks and balances that are interesting and informative.

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Re: I Saw Democracy Die in Russia

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Post by beretguy » Mon, Mar 03, 2025, 6:49 PM UTC

dpc_01234 wrote: post #11

senkora wrote: post #5

I encourage people to read the post. Whether or not Russia was ever a democracy in recent times, the author draws clear, specific parallels to the erosion of checks and balances that are interesting and informative.

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Bless your heart.

Re: I Saw Democracy Die in Russia

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Post by canadianfella » Mon, Mar 03, 2025, 7:32 PM UTC

dpc_01234 wrote: post #11

senkora wrote: post #5

I encourage people to read the post. Whether or not Russia was ever a democracy in recent times, the author draws clear, specific parallels to the erosion of checks and balances that are interesting and informative.

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Re: I Saw Democracy Die in Russia

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Post by cutemonster » Mon, Mar 03, 2025, 9:08 PM UTC

mytailorisrich wrote: post #3

When was Russia a democracy? [1] It should also be remembered that Putin enjoyed real popularity, especially during his first Presidency because he brought back order and living standards improved. Regarding Ukraine, the way he took Crimea "back" with barely a shot fired was also extremely popular in Russia. [1] https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/why-russias-demo...

FTA:

> I vividly remember the sense of possibility in Russia around the year 2000

He means there was the possibility of a different future, with democracy, until Putin step by step took the power.

> Putin enjoyed real popularity,

Trump got lots of votes, isn't that a similarity?

Re: I Saw Democracy Die in Russia

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Post by userlander » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 1:42 AM UTC

dpc_01234 wrote: post #11

senkora wrote: post #5

I encourage people to read the post. Whether or not Russia was ever a democracy in recent times, the author draws clear, specific parallels to the erosion of checks and balances that are interesting and informative.

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He is in the echo chamber. He can't hear us anymore.

Re: I Saw Democracy Die in Russia

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Post by userlander » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 1:43 AM UTC

dpc_01234 wrote: post #10

operator1 wrote: post #6

To me the most upsetting part is how half the country sees things in the exact opposite way. Many see the institutions as already captured by an authoritarian party, and think Trump’s heavy handed ruling is stomping out the corruption. How does one even engage with the other side when two realities are so polar opposite? Even if Trump’s depiction of some deep state were true, why is replacing our institutions with le…

> why is replacing our institutions with less democratic ones the correct answer What do you mean replacing? What the Trump's base mostly wants is getting rid of federal bloat, and transferring power to local government (e.g. education). Very democratic, very decentralizing. Did Trump even create a single "institution" yet? "Democrats" screech "democracy needs saving" where what they really mean is "our oligarchic bu…

This is rich. How's the Kool aid taste?

Re: I Saw Democracy Die in Russia

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Post by amai » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 9:02 AM UTC

Should have moved to the EU. I lived in Russia and the US and compared to EU countries they both have really huge issues. Both countries could be great places to live but their militarism and "patriotism" makes that impossible. The amount of money their governments suck from society and put into military is crazy. And both countries are not a democracy anymore but an oligarchy, Russia a lot more obviously than the US.