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Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

#131

I genuinely do wonder whether or not this will change anything for (current) Apple customers. As the iPhone/iPad are non-LTE, CDMA-only devices; I don't foresee this ruling impacting the current restrictions that bar the entry-level 2GB data plans from having tethering support.

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Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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I was unaware that Verizon couldn't charge for tethering over LTE, but I did find it strange that the Verizon iPad has tethering included in any data plan and the AT&T version does not. I ended up canceling my AT&T order and ordering a Verizon iPad once I discovered that fact.

That said, it's been almost six months since the new iPad came out and AT&T has yet to include tethering, so I don't think they see tethering to iPad that huge a selling point. (in fact, I don't think they even have a way of letting you pay for tethering if you're on an iPad's prepaid data).

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The actual cost of the data itself is trivial in comparison to the cost of connectivity in the first place. If you really hate it that much, and claim that you effectively never use it, then get a phone plan without data and just use your wifi. Problem solved. The thing is, you do use your cellular data, and maintaining that service is more than just pushing a few ones and zeros. I am having trouble finding where in…

> Your post is complaining about paying for unused data, and why can't you just pay for the data you're actually using - in short, you want a plan that you saturate and just want to pay for that. Nope. Sorry. Didn't say that. This is your interpretation and nothing more. And that's OK. All I am saying is that I a starting to think that we are over-paying for connectivity. I don't know exactly where or how, but someth…

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Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The actual cost of the data itself is trivial in comparison to the cost of connectivity in the first place. If you really hate it that much, and claim that you effectively never use it, then get a phone plan without data and just use your wifi. Problem solved. The thing is, you do use your cellular data, and maintaining that service is more than just pushing a few ones and zeros. I am having trouble finding where in…

> Your post is complaining about paying for unused data, and why can't you just pay for the data you're actually using - in short, you want a plan that you saturate and just want to pay for that. Nope. Sorry. Didn't say that. This is your interpretation and nothing more. And that's OK. All I am saying is that I a starting to think that we are over-paying for connectivity. I don't know exactly where or how, but someth…

You're hung up on the flow of data, rather than my point which is having the connectivity in the first place. Pure data costs really are trivial - plans with different caps are simply a way of segmenting customers.

I'm also not understanding the difference between "wanting to pay for a group plan that's only big enough to avoid saturation" and "paying too much for data we're not using over multiple devices". They seem to be two different ways of referring to the same thing.

Does cellular data service become fairly priced for everyone else if I -single handedly- drop my service? I wasn't saying that. I was saying that since you were implying that you don't use cellular data, just drop the plan and move wholly to wifi. It was a solution to your stated problem.

I also said that of course that wasn't the case - which was why I then talked about connectivity rather then simple ones and zeroes.

Is wireless data priced correctly? How long is a piece of string?

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's $29.99/month to enable the Sprint Hotspot. They disable the built-in tethering in Android and hide most tethering apps from the Play store. That said, you can tether over USB or bluetooth with PdaNet or FoxFi without paying any fees or rooting the phone.

blue tooth tethering sucks. it keeps disconnecting and i have to go through like a 8 step process to get it working again. FoxFi worked beautifully until i installed an update and it was blocked. now FoxFi is working on getting around ICS 4.0.4 on sprint. WTF is sprint thinking? why do they think people choose android over iphone? it's supposed to be more open. im so tired of this bullshit cat and mouse game.

I can't speak for the reliability of jailbreak tethering methods, but I only use Bluetooth for Personal Hotspot on my iPhone and it works flawlessly with no connection issues at all (though I do have tethering as a legitimate part of my plan).

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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post #34

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Agreed. So is Apple's charging for media feeds on an iPhone that I read over my own bandwidth, on my own device, from a 3rd party I have a private relationship with. Yet that stands somehow.

What stands? If the purchase doesn't originate within an app then Apple doesn't get a cut. They have put rules in place basically saying that the private relationship must have formed outside the app (no linking to buy pages), but that is different than what you're complaining about.

What difference does it make that the purchase originated in an app? That MY app, using my bandwidth on my device etc. Same argument.

The reason they do it is, of course, that they can. I call it a shakedown, but lawyers may have another name.

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

#137
post #70

While this is wondeful, ZDNet misses something huge picked up on Ars. "The FCC concedes that Verizon may charge $20 per month for customers who retain grandfathered unlimited data plans." http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/07/tethering-apps-must-b... So I won't be benefitting from this. The most ridiculous, bullshit part of all of this is that unlimited plans aren't unlimited anyway . They have "Fair Access Policy"…

I always wondered if it'd be worth it to start a class lawsuit over "unlimited" data plans.

Class action lawsuits only ever really benefit the plaintiff counsel.

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always wondered if it'd be worth it to start a class lawsuit over "unlimited" data plans.

Class action lawsuits only ever really benefit the plaintiff counsel.

While I doubt cash rewards would be possible, simply removing the data cap would be an impressive victory.

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

#140
I've just noticed on my iPhone 4S on Verizon I can enable personal hotspot and not get some warning about being charged anymore. But I very much doubt any changes have gone into effect this quickly.

Some questions:

Has anyone contacted Verizon Wireless to get official word if the free tethering has gone into effect?

Has anyone gotten official word from Verizon Wireless if CDMA tethering will be free, also?

Note: I am aware these are 700mhz restrictions. Note my use of "official word" above.

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