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What are they going to do? Stop using the internet? Stop using newer versions of the software. Firefox is open-source, so forking and fixing the older versions before these hostile changes is not impossible.
I hope this is true. I don't know how to maintain a web browser, hopefully those that do are willing to do the work to keep it running.
Google does not want rights to things you do using Chrome (2008)
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I hope this is true. I don't know how to maintain a web browser, hopefully those that do are willing to do the work to keep it running.
Does a web browser need maintenance beyond security fixes?
Re: Google does not want rights to things you do using Chrome (2008)
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I hope this is true. I don't know how to maintain a web browser, hopefully those that do are willing to do the work to keep it running.
Does a web browser need maintenance beyond security fixes?
But also… what people want to do on their devices evolves. Web developers want to be able to support that. So they rely on browser developers to constantly support new features. One can bemoan this state of the world as much as they’d like(*), but at a certain point it’s just sticking one’s head in the sand.
(*) I style myself mostly a native platforms developer, and I’d love it if the web wasn’t the de-facto cross-platform architecture of choice. But alas.
Re: Google does not want rights to things you do using Chrome (2008)
#64Looks like this article might need a new "Updated" entry because current chrome ToS points to generic : https://policies.google.com/terms
important fact missing in the article (maybe even from title): matt never spoke for google and didn't work at google since the mid 2010s i think. he's an early hire who became a star Obama-era DOGEdepto-esque (mostly for good) technocrat, which then caused most of his peers to be hired left and right in hopes to get access to that cadre.
Re: Google does not want rights to things you do using Chrome (2008)
#65Mozilla is sooo fucked here. On one hand, it would take them approx ~1 sentence of blog to say "We won't sell your input info to anyone" and this drama goes away. OTOH: if the currently pending court case on anti-monopoly bars google from making payments to mozilla (which is about ~90%++ of their revenue), mozilla truly, and well is fucked. Meaning -they need to diversify, and they know it; they can't sell browsers,…
They've had a decade and a half now to invest and diversify. I've been incredibly disappointed in every attempt. Honestly, just investing the good portion of the revenue from Google in an index fund and treating it like an endowment would probably have done better than they ended up.
Re: Google does not want rights to things you do using Chrome (2008)
#66Matt Cutts was one of the Google search OGs. The kind of cultural values (e.g. make user happy all else will follow) he and a number of other original Google employees believed in and tried to defend have loooong been overridden by the Sundars and other Prabakhars who only kowtowed to the short-term demands of wall street. Cutts, Ben Gomes and similar-minded do-gooders have all neatly been benched a long time ago.
"Prabakhars"?
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I am building a company that accepts user generated data, and one surprising struggle is getting my lawyers to stop writing shitty, overbroad, abusive TOS. They are just so used to it, and all the templates and boiler plate is designed to give me everything and the user nothing. And if I want to do better by ny users I have to fight and cajole my own lawyers and pay extra for them to do the extra work of writing term…
> It sucks. It depends on your perspective surely? As a lawyer your job is typically to protect your client from legal risk, so if users are happy to sign a really expansive set of terms (which experience shows is the case) that gives grants lots of permission to do stuff with their data then that's low risk. If you as a business don't want that then you need to make it explicit that you're willing to take on some ex…
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I hope this is true. I don't know how to maintain a web browser, hopefully those that do are willing to do the work to keep it running.
Does a web browser need maintenance beyond security fixes?
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Does a web browser need maintenance beyond security fixes?
I tried viewing Notion and self-hosted Mattermost using SeaMonkey last week. Nothing was displayed at all. Trac pages still worked though. So yeah, a web browser needs more than security fixes.
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Does a web browser need maintenance beyond security fixes?
I tried viewing Notion and self-hosted Mattermost using SeaMonkey last week. Nothing was displayed at all. Trac pages still worked though. So yeah, a web browser needs more than security fixes.