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Re: Show HN: I built a modern Goodreads alternative

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post #5

I don't mind a goodreads alternative, but regarding the UI from 2005, I am not sure I care. It works and people are used to it. I am not a supporter of "let's try build a new interface using shiny new technology" for the sake of new .

I view it as a positive. It's easy to find things and obvious which parts are interactive.

Re: Show HN: I built a modern Goodreads alternative

#32
post #8

Goodreads does indeed suck in many ways, but I am in favor of a 5 star system! I think oftentimes we need to commit to one rating or another and not waffle around with this "4.12425/5" type reviews :)

I think most n/x rating systems are extremely weak and the level of detail is irrelevant. Averaging leads to a soup where nearly everything that isn't objectively awful falls in 60-80% rating. There's no signal to determine if it's good or just mediocre based on the rating alone. Goodreads and IMDB have been utterly useless to me.

Rotten Tomatoes' system has a lot of positives and I see a ton of signal in Rotten Tomatoes scores. It only works with a critical mass of people rating a given piece and I don't think anyone could get that critical mass for books aside from Goodreads.

I had an idea of a rating system where people would have to create a ranked list of the movies/books. Their rating for a given piece would be based on where it is in their list, linearly. Then ratings would be relative to other content. I think this would be much harder to get off the ground than a Rotten Tomatoes system.

Re: Show HN: I built a modern Goodreads alternative

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Off topic perhaps, but what annoys me about Goodreads is that the rating system just doesn't work. Everything seems to be 4-5 stars.

You're relying on a whole mix of people, from tweens to teens to old goats, who may, or likely don't, have similar tastes.

A pointless exercise imo. Similar to going to reddit for reviews. It's not what you really want.

Re: Show HN: I built a modern Goodreads alternative

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just assume all reviews are lying unless I know the reviewer or have validated their past reviews. I don't know why these sites don't lean into the social angle and weight reviews by social-graph distance. This certainly doesn't mean you have to HIDE the public reviews by unknown people.... just give an incentive to give input at what sort of reviews you want.

> I don't know why these sites don't lean into the social angle and weight reviews by social-graph distance. Goodreads does that though. Reviews from friends and people you follow are shown first

Ah, interesting, apologies for the accidental goodreads slander. I moved on to storygraph a while ago and haven't looked back.

Re: Show HN: I built a modern Goodreads alternative

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post #5

I don't mind a goodreads alternative, but regarding the UI from 2005, I am not sure I care. It works and people are used to it. I am not a supporter of "let's try build a new interface using shiny new technology" for the sake of new .

for me it is the opposite - i actually prefer older UI.

Less optimized for farming my attention and ads, more optimized for me discovering things, and not being shoehorned into choices.

Re: Show HN: I built a modern Goodreads alternative

#37
I would be much more interested in a Goodreads alternative that focuses on articles/substacks/newsletters etc.

There isn't a good way of sorting through all the stuff out there and I feel like I am missing a bunch of content worth reading as a result.

Out of curiosity how did you initially populate your site?

Re: Show HN: I built a modern Goodreads alternative

#38

I think most people looking for an alternative to Goodreads are using Storygraph.

I found the UI of story graph unusable, like among the worst I had ever seen. I remember having to google how to see books I've already read. Using hardcover.app now, whose only issue is that the performance is really bad

Re: Show HN: I built a modern Goodreads alternative

#40

How does this compare to https://www.thestorygraph.com/ ?

StoryGraph has made it pretty clear they don’t want to be more social—you have to go into your settings and explicitly turn on friends and followers.

They also de-emphasize reviews, hiding them under a button. There are no likes or comments on reviews, and they don’t have shelves like Goodreads.

But to me, a big part of Goodreads is the community, library organization, and reviews, so I want to emphasize those on Kaguya.

Also, I just think our design is much better.

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