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China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

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Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#21
It seems a bit strange. This isn’t like nuclear weapons researchers in the 1940s, where only a small group had the knowledge to build the bomb. There are a LOT of AI researchers out there, and it’s more a battle of resources rather than rare knowledge at this point, it seems.

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#22
post #13

The sweet spot: Good enough at AI to make 7 figures. Not good enough to personally be a geopolitical pawn.

Apparently 7 figures is the new 6 figures...

$150,000 USD is around ¥1,092,00 CNY, so that might explain it. :p

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#24
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the European countries that I've bothered to look, crime statistics are actually down. It's just the perception of crime that is up. Think about who might benefit from creating this kind of misleading perception.

It can be misleading in other ways For instance it is trivial for a country to reduce crime statistics simply by making things that used to be crimes legal

It can be, but it's easy to check wheter it's true or another fascist dream, right

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#25

> They also worry that executives could be detained and used as a bargaining chip in U.S.-China negotiations, in an echo of a fight over a Huawei executive held in Canada at Washington’s request during the first Trump administration. Does anybody doubt that this is a reasonable concern? The Feds would probably throw the book at those guys for every form of IP theft, "conspiracy to commit economic espionage," "theft o…

> Does anybody doubt that this is a reasonable concern?

Im pretty anti-CCP, and pro-USA, but I wouldn't put anything past the Trump admin at this point. Honestly don't see how news worthy this whole thing is, as it just seems like common sense from the Chinese side imo.

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#26
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the European countries that I've bothered to look, crime statistics are actually down. It's just the perception of crime that is up. Think about who might benefit from creating this kind of misleading perception.

It can be misleading in other ways For instance it is trivial for a country to reduce crime statistics simply by making things that used to be crimes legal

Or in the case of Russia, murders go down, and unidentified bodies that are dead for no particular reason go up by the same amount.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1477370818794124?ic...

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#27
The interesting thing in this article isn’t that China is telling people to avoid the US for national security reasons. Many states, including the US have similar guidance to people who work in jobs sensitive to national security.

What’s interesting is that China is viewing AI tech as a technology vital to their security.

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#29
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the European countries that I've bothered to look, crime statistics are actually down. It's just the perception of crime that is up. Think about who might benefit from creating this kind of misleading perception.

It can be misleading in other ways For instance it is trivial for a country to reduce crime statistics simply by making things that used to be crimes legal

That goes both ways. Crime statistics can also be inflated by making things people already do illegal, eg the various facets of prohibiting different substances that people use.
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