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AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

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Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

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Post by casey2 »

righthand wrote: post #239
yalogin wrote: post #225

My search pattern has completely changed. I just go to chatgpt or meta ai directly these days for topics/queries I need help recall or summarization with. This is usually most of the searches. The only reason I use google is for maps based info. I cannot see the use for Webmd and other sites that provide information along specific verticals, anymore. People are going to WebMD and these sites out of habit and that is…

When all the specific niche sites like WebMD go under where will ChatGPT get it’s information?

"Hey {user} remember that disease you had a while back with {list of symptoms} did you ever get that checked out"?

"Yeah it was a rare new disease the doctor called it {name of disease}"

But seriously there are real medical sources that are far more valuable than freaking WebMD, Medical journals (e.g., PubMed, JAMA), Health agencies (e.g., CDC, WHO), Books and Textbooks, User-Generated Content, Firsthand Expert Input

Medical information isn't exactly a "niche". Most sites rely on community which chatbots could, but probably won't emulate anytime soon, I also really doubt the implication that someones' personal, likely nonmonitized, webpage is going to "go under" because it gets less than some arbitrary view count.

A better question is "When all the governments go under where will chatGPT get it's information"

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Post by TZubiri »

austin-cheney wrote: post #247
TZubiri wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This may surprise you, but some bots don't respect robots.txt

No, but you can identify and block them by other means, such as redirecting bots to an empty page on your web server or blocking them from your router.

but how do you identify them?

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Post by 29athrowaway »

If your service is simply prompting an AI model, your company will be eaten be obsoleted by AI.

If your service acquires real world data specific to individuals and organizations that is used to make better decisions, your company will not be eaten by AI (immediately).

Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

addicted wrote: post #220
ta1243 wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with SO is that obsolete answers are never marked as such. You might find the best way to do X in 2015, but perhaps that's worse than finding nothing.

The problem with marking answers “obsolete” is that many code bases are old. You need those answers.

Obsolete answers shouldn't be removed. They should be de-ranked and marked as such, but still available without extra clicks.

Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

nitwit005 wrote: post #69
staticautomatic wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree. The old way of doing SEO blogspam is dead, and good riddance. Well curated, high quality content written by humans, with information and insights you can’t get from LLMs, will reign. Long live curation.

I'm sure I can make a couple of surprising or insightful articles for my current industry, and then I'll run dry. Most topics require data or information in some form, which requires time to accumulate. You end up rate limited. Even at the scale of a decent sized company, you often can only produce interesting content occasionally.

Correct. That is how it should be, not daily update spam.

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Post by fragmede »

johnfn wrote: post #149
joelthelion wrote: post #8

The ones that struggle had pre-existing issues : - quora pivoted from quality content to cheap clickbait - SO has overbearing moderation. Chatgpt doesn't close your question the second you've submitted it. And so on. In short, quality platforms are fine.

Hm, not sure I agree with you about SO. The experience I have with SO 99%+ of the time is that I google my question, get a result on SO which has a correct and decent quality answer, and I'm back to work. That's a pretty great experience, and I certainly wouldn't say that it misses the bar to be a 'quality platform'. I do agree the moderation is overbearing at times, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwate…

> After all, where is GPT 5 going to scrape the next set of answers for new libraries and frameworks..?

with open source code, it can generate docs, feed those docs in on the next training run, use that knowledge to generate que and answers. With tool use, it can then test those answers, and then feed them into the knowledge base for the training run after that.

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

_benj wrote: post #26

I’ve seen this shift in my own usage. I find myself appending “Reddit” to the end of my searches a lot more often, I have pinned Wikipedia to the top of my search results (in kagi) and I haven’t visited stackoverflow in months, although I see that perplexity quotes it quite often when I ask it coding questions… I’m just a sample of one, but it’s certainly interesting to see how apparently I’m just one of many

I also used this tactic for questions about certain products, but I no longer use it in general because reddit has become riddled with bots, AI stories, astro-turfing campaigns, etc. It's hard to come across something genuine any more. This has been the case even before the AI craze of course, but now it's virtually unavoidable. The whole platform has become a giant shit hole.

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Post by bakugo »

staticautomatic wrote: post #14
corentin88 wrote: post #2

Content marketing is dead. AI has killed it. One of our main marketing channels was writing SEO-oriented articles on our company’s blog. The traffic has steadily decreased over the last year despite huge efforts. That doesn’t mean SEO is dead though.

Disagree. The old way of doing SEO blogspam is dead, and good riddance. Well curated, high quality content written by humans, with information and insights you can’t get from LLMs, will reign. Long live curation.

Where can I find this "high quality content written by humans" exactly? Without paying a subscription fee for it, of course.

Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

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Post by dougb5 »

aeve890 wrote: post #241
dougb5 wrote: post #34

AI is killing my website but in a different way than what's discussed in the article: Content scrapers are completely out of control, spiking my serving costs and degrading performance for human users. There seem to be hundreds of them and they've gotten very good at looking like human users so they're hard to block or throttle. I can't prove they're all AI-related scrapers, but I've been running the site for 25 year…

Can you like, run your content in JS only and mine crypto if you detect the visitor is a bot?

Diabolical! But I think the occasional humans that I falsely identify as a bot will not appreciate this.
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