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Raspberry Pi to get Android 4.0

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Re: Raspberry Pi to get Android 4.0

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But the RPi is an awful HTPC, it's way too underpowered and can only barely cope with 720p decoding. It definitely doesn't cope well with having to do composite overlays like XBMC uses to display controls. The FPS you get in the menus is only also only barely acceptable so even if your content does play the experience is choppy. Yes it's cheap, but it still sucks.

I'm waiting for the day when you can get a raspberry pi style machine that will do full 1080p and will transcode anything I throw at it in real time or faster. It can't be that far off in the future can it? A couple of years maybe?

By then we will all have moved on and you'll be waiting for a raspberry pi style machine that will do full 4320p :p

Re: Raspberry Pi to get Android 4.0

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I'm waiting for the day when you can get a raspberry pi style machine that will do full 1080p and will transcode anything I throw at it in real time or faster. It can't be that far off in the future can it? A couple of years maybe?

By then we will all have moved on and you'll be waiting for a raspberry pi style machine that will do full 4320p :p

Damned progress

Re: Raspberry Pi to get Android 4.0

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The ability to run Android apps would be the key. Plus, for an HTPC, Android (tablet UI or Google TV, take your pick) has a much better interface than XBMC, IMO.

But the RPi is an awful HTPC, it's way too underpowered and can only barely cope with 720p decoding. It definitely doesn't cope well with having to do composite overlays like XBMC uses to display controls. The FPS you get in the menus is only also only barely acceptable so even if your content does play the experience is choppy. Yes it's cheap, but it still sucks.

Do you have a source for this? All the reviews I have read claim that 1080p playback on the RPi is smooth.

Re: Raspberry Pi to get Android 4.0

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The ability to run Android apps would be the key. Plus, for an HTPC, Android (tablet UI or Google TV, take your pick) has a much better interface than XBMC, IMO.

But the RPi is an awful HTPC, it's way too underpowered and can only barely cope with 720p decoding. It definitely doesn't cope well with having to do composite overlays like XBMC uses to display controls. The FPS you get in the menus is only also only barely acceptable so even if your content does play the experience is choppy. Yes it's cheap, but it still sucks.

I don't know about that. I have seen Android on OpenPandora (whose performance is similar to that of the Raspberry Pi, more or less) and lots of applications ran just like on my Android Galaxy S phone. Most games (even 3d ones) were working fine, too. It's definitely not going to be the best Android device around, but it will run many things well, I am confident about that.

Re: Raspberry Pi to get Android 4.0

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post #9

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But the RPi is an awful HTPC, it's way too underpowered and can only barely cope with 720p decoding. It definitely doesn't cope well with having to do composite overlays like XBMC uses to display controls. The FPS you get in the menus is only also only barely acceptable so even if your content does play the experience is choppy. Yes it's cheap, but it still sucks.

Do you have a source for this? All the reviews I have read claim that 1080p playback on the RPi is smooth.

with my pi/raspbmc the 1080p movie playback is indeed smooth but the menus stutter awfully. But the reason for that might be that the menus doesn't fully utilize the opengl es of the pi or something else (bad skin?) so I wouldn't blame the pi yet.

Re: Raspberry Pi to get Android 4.0

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Do you have a source for this? All the reviews I have read claim that 1080p playback on the RPi is smooth.

with my pi/raspbmc the 1080p movie playback is indeed smooth but the menus stutter awfully. But the reason for that might be that the menus doesn't fully utilize the opengl es of the pi or something else (bad skin?) so I wouldn't blame the pi yet.

That seems to be a common issue with UI on the Pi... I think a few things are going to need to be rewritten to push work away from the CPU and onto the GPU.

Waiting with baited breath for mine to turn up! :-)

Re: Raspberry Pi to get Android 4.0

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But the RPi is an awful HTPC, it's way too underpowered and can only barely cope with 720p decoding. It definitely doesn't cope well with having to do composite overlays like XBMC uses to display controls. The FPS you get in the menus is only also only barely acceptable so even if your content does play the experience is choppy. Yes it's cheap, but it still sucks.

Do you have a source for this? All the reviews I have read claim that 1080p playback on the RPi is smooth.

It depends on the exact encoding parameters of the content. Certain container formats and decoder options decode better. Some content does playback fine but I have a large amount of higher bitrate content that doesn't play well.

Part of why I use XBMC is because it will play almost anything you throw at it. Sticking it on extremely resource constrained hardware gets rid of that feature.

Re: Raspberry Pi to get Android 4.0

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I still don't understand the desire for Android on non-touch devices. At all... The more exciting bit is XBMC being available in Android, in my opinion. I have XBMC on my desktop, laptop, phone, tablet and raspberry Pi. Using a single app, I can play media from any of those devices to another. It's so simple and elegant and it blows my mind everytime I do it.

For me the appeal is hacking with the Android source on a low cost, unbrickable device.

Having said that, I've always read that ICS requires 512MB of RAM, so we'll have to see how it runs

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