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AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

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Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

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I’ve seen this shift in my own usage. I find myself appending “Reddit” to the end of my searches a lot more often, I have pinned Wikipedia to the top of my search results (in kagi) and I haven’t visited stackoverflow in months, although I see that perplexity quotes it quite often when I ask it coding questions… I’m just a sample of one, but it’s certainly interesting to see how apparently I’m just one of many

I have the same exact usage behavior

Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

#192
post #64
post #34

AI is killing my website but in a different way than what's discussed in the article: Content scrapers are completely out of control, spiking my serving costs and degrading performance for human users. There seem to be hundreds of them and they've gotten very good at looking like human users so they're hard to block or throttle. I can't prove they're all AI-related scrapers, but I've been running the site for 25 year…

Even my barely visited personal website is using almost 10GB bandwidth per month according to Digital Ocean. My website is 90% text with no video, so I imagine it's just bots and scrapers hitting it all day. I'm very close to password protecting the whole thing aside from the homepage.

Are you paying per GB bandwidth with DigitalOcean?

Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

#193
post #34

AI is killing my website but in a different way than what's discussed in the article: Content scrapers are completely out of control, spiking my serving costs and degrading performance for human users. There seem to be hundreds of them and they've gotten very good at looking like human users so they're hard to block or throttle. I can't prove they're all AI-related scrapers, but I've been running the site for 25 year…

At least your content is going to be included in the LLMs for years to come. Kind of a legacy:)

Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

#194

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I'll never forget when I read the question, "Who is the mayor of San Jose?" on Quora, and the answer was "Joe Bloe is the mayor of San Jose. Source: I'm Joe Bloe, mayor of San Jose." Reading that defined Quora in my mind for the next few years.

>Reading that defined Quora in my mind for the next few years. Because he was an impersonator? Or because he really was Joe Bloe?

Who knows? I harbored a 10% skepticism that Quora astroturfed the question. That was just the first example like that I found, in the early days questions like that were common. That should have either removed my skepticism or driven it to 100% :-)

Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

#195

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>Reading that defined Quora in my mind for the next few years. Because he was an impersonator? Or because he really was Joe Bloe?

Appears there was never a Joe Bloe. [0] It's also whimsical of Quora because there are many "San Jose" locations. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayor_of_San_Jose,_California

It was a made-up name for the example, since a. I don't remember the exact year; and b. I'm not sure it was San Jose -- it was some city in the bay area, but maybe not San Jose. Chuck Reed was mayor from 2007 to 2015, and I don't see him on Quora, so probably it was some other city.

Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

#196
post #34

AI is killing my website but in a different way than what's discussed in the article: Content scrapers are completely out of control, spiking my serving costs and degrading performance for human users. There seem to be hundreds of them and they've gotten very good at looking like human users so they're hard to block or throttle. I can't prove they're all AI-related scrapers, but I've been running the site for 25 year…

Determine how much you need bots to access your website. If you don't need them then block them. This will kill you if you are reliant upon AD revenue.

On my personal site I started blocking bots and also set a "noindex, nofollow" rule to block web crawlers and search bots too. I noticed no change in traffic and still do about 10,000 visits a month.

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#197
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What are the effective marketing channels for specialized/niche B2B companies these days, now that - presumably - the long tail search result strategy is no longer effective? A friend of mine was telling me that his company was very pleased when they were able to ask ChatGPT "what is the best SaaS for X?" where X = their niche, and their company was the first thing it recommended. It surprised me that this was a thin…

> I guess a corollary question is, are there methods (i.e. the chatbot version of SEO) to get your company into chatbot recommendations? It wasn't enough for you lot to ruin search results, now you're seeking ways to pollute AI chat bots?

I’m not a marketer, I’m just curious! I write code, not blogspam.

Re: AI is killing some companies, yet others are thriving – let's look at the data

#198

The ones that struggle had pre-existing issues : - quora pivoted from quality content to cheap clickbait - SO has overbearing moderation. Chatgpt doesn't close your question the second you've submitted it. And so on. In short, quality platforms are fine.

I think the claim above simply redefines “quality platform” with the benefit of hindsight.

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#199
post #188

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You need moderation to reduce low quality content.

Yes, but moderation comes in many flavors. SO’s moderation culture famously deterred newcomers from becoming part of the community and that long-term trend was worrisome even before the LLM scrapers showed up.

Seems to me that the SO moderation level was a design decision. The pros and cons were consciously weighed. As for me, SO found a nice balance, since I dislike the common failure modes of so many other fora.

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#200
post #98

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I think the issue is when people start replacing their capacity to think and reason with these machines. There was an intergalactic space jihad about this IIRC.

I also recommend the written story for Zima Blue (the Love Death and Robots version was much more focused on the artistic aspect) and the question of wine.

Interestingly, went to do a search for "Zima Blue", and because the sidebar decided I wanted information about the tv episode, it gave me a Spanish Wikipedia link (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zima_Blue). The equivalent page in English Wikipedia redirects to "Zima Blue and Other Stories", instead.
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