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The one thing I haven't seen in any of these threads is where privacy-conscious users are supposed to go now. Are there any viable alternatives to Firefox?
Maybe Orion, if you trust Kagi enough? https://kagi.com/orion/ It's webkit-based, and you can pay for it ($150 for a lifetime license).
The one thing I haven't seen in any of these threads is where privacy-conscious users are supposed to go now. Are there any viable alternatives to Firefox?
We just had a thread on Ladybird that seemed positive, but I haven't tried it and so don't know what it's like as a browser. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43200604
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Right. Some people want Sync, Pocket, oneline translation, etc. Others like me just want a browser. There should be a simple option to choose between a browser and some multifunction beast that some people and even more managers at Mozilla are dreaming of.
Those things are Mozilla services. If they spoke of operating Mozilla services and data you input into Mozilla services, it'd be fine and expected. But instead they speak of operating Firefox and data input into Firefox, which is much more broad, and just happens to give them coverage for all kinds of data collection and abuse. The fact they've issued this update and not clarified the scope as Mozilla services is dis…
Introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43185909 - Feb 2025 (1060 comments)
TLDR Firefox has been selling your data all along in exchange for ad money, but now state laws with more teeth forced them to come clean about this behavior.
How many times have we seen this ploy? First you have a nice policy, then you change it to something extreme that causes outrage, then you walk back most of the change saying you had legal or whatever baloney reasons to make the change in the first place and somehow couldn't wordsmith the language well enough the first time. I don't buy it. I hope some day business schools begin teaching that this ploy is a very bad…
While I agree with folks that this is a step backwards in privacy, I think it’s a good exercise to zoom out and understand Firefox’s position. The browser market is highly competitive, and Mozilla’s competitors have orders of magnitude more resources at their disposal. As we all know Firefox’s market share has been dropping over the past years and unfortunately the revenue supporting all of Mozilla comes predominantl…
It doesn’t help that they make it hard to donate to a specific product’s development. I’d donate to Firefox. I wouldn’t give a penny to anything of their other distractions. (And others would support exactly the opposite, I’m sure. But no one gets to sponsor what they personally care about.)
While I agree with folks that this is a step backwards in privacy, I think it’s a good exercise to zoom out and understand Firefox’s position. The browser market is highly competitive, and Mozilla’s competitors have orders of magnitude more resources at their disposal. As we all know Firefox’s market share has been dropping over the past years and unfortunately the revenue supporting all of Mozilla comes predominantl…
would that be more than my data are worth?
I really like Firefox and u would like it to improve over time and as this is one of my main tools for my work I could consider to spend a little on it
Do I understand it correctly that they can now use everything I read or type in the browser as they please, including for AI training?
Considering that I do most of my work in webbased enail, issue tracker and other internal tools, this sounds like a direct violation of my NDA.