An update on Mozilla's terms of use for Firefox
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An update on Mozilla's terms of use for Firefox
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Re: An update on Mozilla's terms of use for Firefox
#2Is Google paying Mozilla to sabotage themselves?
Stay in business, so monopoly arguments can be brushed aside.
But slowly erode privacy on the internet. And slowly lose user base.
Re: An update on Mozilla's terms of use for Firefox
#3Is Google paying Mozilla to sabotage themselves? Stay in business, so monopoly arguments can be brushed aside. But slowly erode privacy on the internet. And slowly lose user base.
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#4> The reason we’ve stepped away from making blanket claims that “We never sell your data” is because, in some places, the LEGAL definition of “sale of data” is broad and evolving. As an example, the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or other means, a consumer’s personal information by [a] business to another business or a third party” in exchange for “monetary” or “other valuable consideration.”
THANK YOU California for this definition of selling data, which is accurate, and representative of what people think of when discussions of selling data come up.
> In order to make Firefox commercially viable, there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners
Ok, so that’s pretty straightforward. According to CA and other states Mozilla is collecting and selling your data. Which is exactly what everyone is upset about and means exactly what everyone thought it meant.
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#5> The reason we’ve stepped away from making blanket claims that “We never sell your data” is because, in some places, the LEGAL definition of “sale of data” is broad and evolving. As an example, the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or othe…
> in exchange for “monetary” or “other valuable consideration.”
JFC, it's funny they try to call this out as some kind of a "weird" definition when that's just... what selling is.
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#6> The reason we’ve stepped away from making blanket claims that “We never sell your data” is because, in some places, the LEGAL definition of “sale of data” is broad and evolving. As an example, the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or othe…
Yeah, "Calm down everyone, the only issue here is that certain jurisdictions have sensible definitions that mean we can't legally claim we're not selling data because we are" is arguably clarifying but it's not particularly comforting.
Seems safest to assume that if it can be tracked, it will be. And traded too.
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#7Is Google paying Mozilla to sabotage themselves? Stay in business, so monopoly arguments can be brushed aside. But slowly erode privacy on the internet. And slowly lose user base.
They just lost a monopoly case because they paid Mozilla all that money, this theory has always made little sense and sticking to it now makes even less.
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#8and they continue to dig themselves a bigger hole
"we are selling your data, not necessarily anonymised, even though a month ago we had a text on our website said we NEVER would"
Re: An update on Mozilla's terms of use for Firefox
#9> The reason we’ve stepped away from making blanket claims that “We never sell your data” is because, in some places, the LEGAL definition of “sale of data” is broad and evolving. As an example, the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or othe…
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Re: An update on Mozilla's terms of use for Firefox
#10This pretty much confirms that this is what everyone thought the change was about. So we get clarity, but no actual change in course from Mozilla. Good. We now know very clearly where Mozilla and Firefox stand on privacy.